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Old 03-22-2021, 10:36 AM   #1
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never done this,powdering tire or tube or both,and how to
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Old 03-22-2021, 11:18 AM   #2
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Hi Ford31,
Easy, use talcum or baby powder before installation. Put some powder in your hand and rub it on the tube. The tube is slightly tacky and some powder will stick to it.
Put some powder in the tire and rub the insides with your hands, it will also stick to the inside of the tire.
Fit the tire and tube as per normal.
Inflating the tube just a little, will make the rubbing as well as fitting the tube inside the tire, a easier.
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Old 03-22-2021, 11:26 AM   #3
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Old 03-22-2021, 11:41 AM   #4
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Never to old to learn how to powder a babies butt, lol
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Your post(s) tire question answers your question very well.
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Old 03-24-2021, 07:43 AM   #6
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Be careful with baby powder. The talc that is used sometimes has asbestos in it. Either talc or cornstarch can cause respiratory problems if a person dusts it out too much so rubbing it in would be the best approach.

Folks are used to wearing masks now so that would be a good idea.
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Old 03-24-2021, 08:31 AM   #7
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FWIW, tires and tubes were originally dusted with powdered mica, not talc! If you look at an old NOS tube you see a somewhat sparkly crystalline appearance to the dusting covering the tube. Talc does not look that way.

Original reason for mica: Completely resistant to water and humidity. It is hydrophobic, and stays dry and slippery despite moisture. Talc, on the other hand, turns gummy and loses its ability to permit the tube to 'slip', relieving stretch tension between the tube, rim, and inner casing of the tire.

Back in the late 40's my dad had boxes of the stuff (mica powder) labeled "B.F. Goodrich" at his service station and tire shop. Every time a used tube or tire was removed for service they were brushed with the stuff before reassembly using what looks like a wallpaper paste brush. Now known to cause pulmonary fibrosis if you breathe the dust for a career, the stuff went out of circulation in tire shops 50 years ago.
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FWIW, tires and tubes were originally dusted with powdered mica, not talc! If you look at an old NOS tube you see a somewhat sparkly crystalline appearance to the dusting covering the tube. Talc does not look that way.

Original reason for mica: Completely resistant to water and humidity. It is hydrophobic, and stays dry and slippery despite moisture. Talc, on the other hand, turns gummy and loses its ability to permit the tube to 'slip', relieving stretch tension between the tube, rim, and inner casing of the tire.

Back in the late 40's my dad had boxes of the stuff (mica powder) labeled "B.F. Goodrich" at his service station and tire shop. Every time a used tube or tire was removed for service they were brushed with the stuff before reassembly using what looks like a wallpaper paste brush. Now known to cause pulmonary fibrosis if you breathe the dust for a career, the stuff went out of circulation in tire shops 50 years ago.
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Old 03-24-2021, 09:53 AM   #9
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Instead of talc I found that spaying water mixed with dish detergent and a bag works best.

I then set the tire changer platform on 4 milk crates and then use 3 HF tire changers.
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Old 03-24-2021, 04:24 PM   #10
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what about chalk powder,u cant find talc around here,tractor place uses chalk powder
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The purpose of dry lube on innertubes is to allow the tube to expand into the tire carcass without wrinkling the tube. Any material that allows that will work. As for one type being any better than another, that's up for debate.

Powdered mica has not been packaged as a tube lube for a long time. It would be even more important to wear a mask with it due to the scarring and possible cancer it can cause in the lungs. Definitely wear a mask if using powdered mica.
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Ok, so I just installed 6 new tires, tubes, and rim liners without doing any of this. No powder, no soap. I put about 5 psi in them and bounced them on the floor half a dozen times to let the tube find its happy place, then aired them up fully. Did I screw up? If there is a problem with what I did, when/what will happen?
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Ok, so I just installed 6 new tires, tubes, and rim liners without doing any of this. No powder, no soap. I put about 5 psi in them and bounced them on the floor half a dozen times to let the tube find its happy place, then aired them up fully. Did I screw up? If there is a problem with what I did, when/what will happen?
I think what you did will be just fine. It is more important to use talc or chalk if you have tubes in radial tires.

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Old 03-28-2021, 09:09 AM   #14
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back to powdering tires,i cut 1x4 blocks 5 inches long used 1x 4 to keep tire open,while coating inside tire with powder,pumped tube a bit powdered tube also just used hands took out blocks put tube in put wheel liners in mounted tires with wheels on truck was easier than i thought thanks for the help
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