Nice Town car photo

[J Franklin]

Here is a clear photo check it out.

https://usclibstore.usc.edu/Whitting...ry-4/i-tMcQ7Ln

[Joop]

Town Car Delivery nice find thanks for posting..

[Brad in Germany]

[dpson]

The car in the background is a 1929/30 Studebaker Commander 8.

[Bob-A]

Search the site, lots of old (early 30's) car pictures. Wrecked ones too.


Bob-A

[Chuck Dempsey]

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Speaking of wrecked ones..... Here is a good example from the collection of why the 'A' has safety glass.

[Chuck Dempsey]

Two pics of a Dodge and an "A", after they met by accident.....

[Chuck Dempsey]

Looks like this 1931 Roadster got rolled. The pic is from 1931 as well, so a practically new car.....

[Chuck Dempsey]

28/29 Roadster, good side/bad side. Note the 'good' side rear tire is missing?!?!

[marty in Ohio]

Brad in Germany blew up the pictures and did you notice the tread on the tires in the second picture? YIKES!!
Marty

[Chuck Dempsey]

'Every Cup a Treat'.....

[77Birdman]

Not being an A expert, what is that on the side of the car in the first pic? It looks like a modified carriage light to me. I also noticed how bare the front tires were. I guess they rode them until nothing was left. Then again they weren't traveling down a highway at 80mph either.

[History]

Life was good for Webb and Seward that day. Nice photos.

[DBrer]

Those are great photos. the wrecked ones are sad to see, shish.

[Gary Karr]

What a cool website of wonderful era photographs. He must have taken lots of pictures for insurance settlements.

[CHuDWah]

Originally Posted by 77Birdman

Not being an A expert, what is that on the side of the car in the first pic? It looks like a modified carriage light to me. I also noticed how bare the front tires were. I guess they rode them until nothing was left. Then again they weren't traveling down a highway at 80mph either.

Standard equipment on Town Car Delivery.

[CHuDWah]

Originally Posted by marty in Ohio

Brad in Germany blew up the pictures and did you notice the tread on the tires in the second picture? YIKES!!
Marty

It looks like the cars are parked on sand/dirt/gravel/mud/whatever. I don't think the tread is bald - just covered in whatever substance they're parked on. Note the under side of the TCD side-mount well also is covered in it.

[WTSHNN]

and no whitewalls!!!

Fun fact; of the thousands of Dick Whittington pictures, 856 of them involve Model A's! Most of those are of course the insurance photos picturing accidents but also a lot of commercial vehicles, proud business owners wanting to showcase their fleet.

The TCD's used those sidelights as standard equipment and different styles were used between 1930 and 1931. These were "off the shelf" lights that are not unique to the Ford TCD's.

Here's a blow up of the tire tread.

-Tim

[mhsprecher]

Pasadena California.

[J Franklin]

Originally Posted by WTSHNN

and no whitewalls!!! -----
Here's a blow up of the tire tread.

-Tim

They used to be more frugal and brave before the advent of AAA and govt. nannies. That tread is gone but the tires will go many more miles till the cord shows.

[Gary Karr]

Here are a couple of photos from the Whittington Gallery that caught my eye, a 29 AA being worked to death, and a really cool 31 Stand drive chassis.

[J Franklin]

At 8# per gallon that is some weight.

[WTSHNN]

These are my favorite images from the Whittington collection.

Dated 1933 you can see how quickly the top of the line Town Car fell out of favor and was relegated to just another car to be repurposed as a plumber's vehicle.

The original sales slip reads "Subject: Ford delivery, La Brea plumbing Vs. Melville; Client: Commercial Casualty, Mr. Lapic"

Links to hi-res images
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...59674/rec/3097

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...59674/rec/3097
-Tim

[J Franklin]

Here is 1 from the AACA Library. Very shiny!

[Chuck Dempsey]

I just did a filter on 'Ford', and came up with LOTS of pics. Not all Ford cars, but here are a few that I saved off.....

[J Franklin]

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Originally Posted by Chuck Dempsey

I just did a filter on 'Ford', and came up with LOTS of pics. Not all Ford cars, but here are a few that I saved off.....

Didn't see any town cars. There are lots of photos of Fords but not a lot of the town car.

[Chuck Dempsey]

[QUOTE=WTSHNN;1868466]These are my favorite images from the Whittington collection.

Dated 1933 you can see how quickly the top of the line Town Car fell out of favor and was relegated to just another car to be repurposed as a plumber's vehicle.

The original sales slip reads "Subject: Ford delivery, La Brea plumbing Vs. Melville; Client: Commercial Casualty, Mr. Lapic"]

.... I don't understand how FORD could have expected people to want a 'limo' FORD, just one year after the Model T. People equated FORD with CHEAP, not LUXURY.

[History]

Maybe he was thinking of ten cent millionaires and how they'd be jonsing to impress? I would think times haven't changed in that regard. [QUOTE=Chuck Dempsey;1868647]

Originally Posted by WTSHNN

These are my favorite images from the Whittington collection.

Dated 1933 you can see how quickly the top of the line Town Car fell out of favor and was relegated to just another car to be repurposed as a plumber's vehicle.


.... I don't understand how FORD could have expected people to want a 'limo' FORD, just one year after the Model T. People equated FORD with CHEAP, not LUXURY.

[Chuck Dempsey]

Look how the tow company added a 'standard' front right wheel to get it towed, as opposed to the other three wheels......

[77Birdman]

[QUOTE=Chuck Dempsey;1868647]

Originally Posted by WTSHNN

These are my favorite images from the Whittington collection.

Dated 1933 you can see how quickly the top of the line Town Car fell out of favor and was relegated to just another car to be repurposed as a plumber's vehicle.

The original sales slip reads "Subject: Ford delivery, La Brea plumbing Vs. Melville; Client: Commercial Casualty, Mr. Lapic"]

.... I don't understand how FORD could have expected people to want a 'limo' FORD, just one year after the Model T. People equated FORD with CHEAP, not LUXURY.

Could be even frugal 'rich people' of the time. I personally knew a car that was rather wealthy he could have afforded a Rolls Royce but instead drove a Crown Victoria (was too frugal to even have a Lincoln!)

[77Birdman]

Edit: Car was supposed to MAN! DUH.

[Chuck Dempsey]

Birdman, true that.

[Chuck Dempsey]

Originally Posted by Chuck Dempsey

Look how the tow company added a 'standard' front right wheel to get it towed, as opposed to the other three wheels......

...Or, are those just over-sized hubcaps that snap onto the wheel?

[Chuck Dempsey]

Also, can anyone tell that that light-colored can attached to the firewall is? https://usclibstore.usc.edu/Whitting...-1/i-HCVvtzm/A

[31Tudor]

My guess would be some type of upper cylinder oiler

[CHuDWah]

Originally Posted by J Franklin

At 8# per gallon that is some weight.

I'd guess the bottles are at least 5 gallons each. At 8.34 pounds per gallon, that's 41.7 pounds - probably at least 45 pounds including the bottle. I count 27 spaces for bottles - presumably there are that many more on the driver side, so 54 total. That's almost 1-1/4 ton - yep, some weight.

Originally Posted by J Franklin

Here is 1 from the AACA Library. Very shiny!

With young Joan Crawford:

https://www.joancrawfordbest.com/cars.htm

[CHuDWah]

Originally Posted by WTSHNN

.... I don't understand how FORD could have expected people to want a 'limo' FORD, just one year after the Model T. People equated FORD with CHEAP, not LUXURY.

Dunno if it's true but I've read the idea was the Ford would be a second car to take Mrs Millionaire shopping, on errands, etc while Mr had the Lincoln limo at the office. Poor sales led Ford to discontinue the TC. It might have done better if they held on a little longer - after the crash, rich folks still might have been able to afford a Ford limo. Course, even then, they might not have wanted to appear cheap - or they might not have wanted to appear still well off when others weren't.

[J Franklin]

One more on topic.

[Bob-A]

Originally Posted by Chuck Dempsey

Look how the tow company added a 'standard' front right wheel to get it towed, as opposed to the other three wheels......

Chuck, I believe those all are standard 19" Model-A wire wheels. The three large hub caps are aftermarket accessory hubcaps of the period.


Bob-A

[WTSHNN]

Originally Posted by J Franklin

One more on topic.

I've been meaning to post this pic because I'm looking to see if anyone knows about the rear quarter. The reflection makes it seem like it's a metal blindback versus the leather commonly seen.

Anyone know the story behind it?

[jb-ob]

Tim,


My guess is it might be a steel back proto-type Town Car which at least one was made. It has dual out side door locks, just like the Tim Kelly proto-type had. This car appears to be missing the cowl band and the cowl lamps are a question as well.


Very cool photo.

[Gary Karr]

Plus, look at the '28 hood sides, and what looks like early 21" wheels and early lug nuts as well as the early style front bumper with the more drastic bends to the ends.

[jb-ob]

All as found on the surviving proto-type Town Car from April '28.

[Pete W.]

pleated front seat

[Brad in Germany]

Looks like the wiper motor is on the outside of the windshield also....

Brad in Maryland