Wheel Rim Liners

[brennanmp]

I am newbie, just starting my first Model A project and had a question related to rim liners. I just purchased new tires and tubes but was wondering if i am required to use rim liners on the wheels? They are 21 inch wheels off a 29.

[1930artdeco]

Hello and welcome to the group. You are not 'required' to use them. However, if you wish to not replace the tubes due to the spokes punching holes in them you will need them. The liners protect the tubes from chaffing against the spoke welds and any rough surfaces.

Another good thing to use when installing the tubes is, if I remember correctly, talcum powder or corn starch, that will help them go into the tire easier and provide some lubricating action.

Mike

[1931 flamingo]

If you don't want the expense of rim liners, could wrap rims w/duct tape
Paul in CT

[J Franklin]

Expense is about $1.50 - $2.00 ea. Save the duct tape.

[brennanmp]

Thanks for repsonses.

[Ron in Quincy]

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I just demounted and remounted the 21" tires and tubes on my 29 Roadster; I found the rim liners that had been used were marked 17" ? They really filled up the rim and even extended up about 1/16". I believe they do a better job than the 21" liners I have used before.

Ron

[Jack '29 Sport Coupe]

You didn't mention whether or not you have a car or a truck. Use rim liners for a car, and rim flaps for a truck. Don't mess with the tape, liners are cheap. JMHO

Jack

[Gord. B by the bay]

I went to an tractor tire repair place and they game a damaged large tractor tube, cut the tube with sissors crossways about 2" wide and they will stretch tightly on the rim, you cut about 15 rings for someone else have a great day Gord. B by the Bay

[Jerry in Shasta]

Gordy,
Did the same thing. But I Krazy glued the end together.
JIS

[ladmo]

What are the spokes referred to in an earlier post. I went ahead and purchased a set of the rim liners based on similar posts and when I went to install them the inside of the rim was completely smooth. No spokes poking through at all (on a '31 coupe).

[Flathead]

I have the same question.

[Ron in Quincy]

ladmo,

A good A wheel is rather smooth on the inside. Some A wheels are badly rusted due to tires being mounted on them, going flat, left outside in the weather. Liners protect the tube from chaffing and also protect the valve stem. Liners were used even on brand new wheels; original liners were a different material than what is available today but still a good idea to use liners.

Ron

[Tom Wesenberg]

The spokes were welded to the outside of the rim, but occasionally you will get a metal spike from the weld on the inside of the rim. I have a couple wheels with the factory cardboard rim liner.

[popcorn-guy]

An experiece w/o flaps on my AA 20" wheels. When my Cretors popcorn truck was done, the new tires and tubes were put on w/o flaps without my knowledge. Now take into consideration that the truck over 5 years only had 10 miles on it by taking it in and out of the enclosed trailer and putting it in it's working location. Sitting in my driveway, one morning I came out and two of the tires were flat as a board. I have always maintained air pressure in them and the only thing that I can envision for the tubes being worn through was from traveling in the trailer and the vibration was the cause for the flats. I had one tire broken down and it did not have the flap, so I went to Sacramento Vintage Ford and purchased all new tubes "and" flaps for the repairs. Lesson learned even if it was taught by someone else. Using liners/flaps will save one a miserable day out on the road. Pick your poison.

[brennanmp]

Originally Posted by Jack '29 Sport Coupe

You didn't mention whether or not you have a car or a truck. Use rim liners for a car, and rim flaps for a truck. Don't mess with the tape, liners are cheap. JMHO

Jack

It is for a fordor.