The Ford Barn

Steve Plucker · 06-20-2011, 01:16 AM

This is like looking for, or finding, a needle in "A" haystack...

Has anyone ever documented an all original, unrestored, Model A/AA Ford car or truck by having the original Ford Factory Bill of Sale to the dealer and the Dealership Bill of Sale to the customer?

There are a few Dealership Bill of Sales in respect to a known car or truck in existance but what about the Factory Bill of Sale to that same known car or truck in existance?

Wouldn't that be a find?

Pluck

Mike V. Florida · 06-20-2011, 01:52 AM

I would think that would be rare indeed. I would think the dealership would not give the customer his invoice showing the profit he made on the deal.

Steve Ciccalone · 06-20-2011, 10:56 AM

Steve, several Model T researchers have been looking at the Accounting Dept. records at the archives. They have been able to find invoices for many early cars that have the engine number and the body style. They apparently have been able to determine the authenticity of some restorations, i.e., have found that several Torpedoes and Run Abouts, relatively rare body styles, were in fact originally touring cars. I don't know the extent of these records and may only pertain to Dearborn built cars. I don't know when other assembly plants opened. I don't know if there are Model A records but I'm not aware of anybody looking for them.

If these records do exist for A's, I'm sure some people would be very interested to know what their engine/frame originally had for body (and color too) but I'm also quite sure others would just as soon "let sleeping dogs lie."

LukeDahlinger · 06-20-2011, 11:07 AM

It wouldn't surprise me if some of the documents in question were lost in the Ford museum fire in the 1970s. From my understanding there was a great amount of archive material that was lost.

LukeDahlinger · 06-20-2011, 06:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fordgarage

Actually it was the Rotunda Fire in 1962 or 1963. Time flies.

I'm familiar with the Rotunda Fire, nothing Archive related was lost in that one. But there was another fire in 1970 which consumed archival materials & documents.

Look at the link below for more info.

http://www.thehenryford.org/research...onRecords.aspx

06-20-2011, 01:16 AM	#1
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Documentation of an original Model A/AA Ford This is like looking for, or finding, a needle in "A" haystack... Has anyone ever documented an all original, unrestored, Model A/AA Ford car or truck by having the original Ford Factory Bill of Sale to the dealer *and* the Dealership Bill of Sale to the customer? There are a few Dealership Bill of Sales in respect to a known car or truck in existance but what about the Factory Bill of Sale to that same known car or truck in existance? Wouldn't that be a find? Pluck

06-20-2011, 01:52 AM	#2
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Documentation of an original Model A/AA Ford I would think that would be rare indeed. I would think the dealership would not give the customer his invoice showing the profit he made on the deal. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

06-20-2011, 10:56 AM	#3
Steve Ciccalone Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: "Live Free or Die!" Posts: 510	Re: Documentation of an original Model A/AA Ford Steve, several Model T researchers have been looking at the Accounting Dept. records at the archives. They have been able to find invoices for many early cars that have the engine number and the body style. They apparently have been able to determine the authenticity of some restorations, i.e., have found that several Torpedoes and Run Abouts, relatively rare body styles, were in fact originally touring cars. I don't know the extent of these records and may only pertain to Dearborn built cars. I don't know when other assembly plants opened. I don't know if there are Model A records but I'm not aware of anybody looking for them. If these records do exist for A's, I'm sure some people would be very interested to know what their engine/frame originally had for body (and color too) but I'm also quite sure others would just as soon "let sleeping dogs lie." __________________ "A wet bird doesn't fly at night."

06-20-2011, 11:07 AM	#4
LukeDahlinger BANNED Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 956	Re: Documentation of an original Model A/AA Ford It wouldn't surprise me if some of the documents in question were lost in the Ford museum fire in the 1970s. From my understanding there was a great amount of archive material that was lost. __________________ Wanted- Feb. 1931 Parts Price List www.vintagefordfacts.blogspot.com