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Old 07-31-2021, 08:37 AM   #1
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Default 49 F1 Clutch problem

Just brought a 1949 Ford F1, like new condition 44,000 mile only two owners

But the clutch will not engaged, owner said it was good just a short time ago.

Looking for guidance to fix this problem.

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Old 07-31-2021, 08:45 AM   #2
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The first thing I would check is the linkage to make sure nothing is disconnected.
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Old 07-31-2021, 10:36 AM   #3
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Also, remove the transmission inspection plate and observe the throwout bearing when you actuate the clutch.
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Old 07-31-2021, 10:46 AM   #4
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It won't engage or it won't disengage? In other words if the engine is running
you cant get the transmission into gear or you have it in gear and the truck
won't move when you let the clutch pedal out.
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Old 07-31-2021, 11:02 AM   #5
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Here are some attachments that show clutch assembly and adjustment instructions. I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Old 07-31-2021, 11:25 AM   #6
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Can you remove the transmission cover and see what's going on inside the transmission regarding the shifting forks, etc? Is there fluid in the transmission?

Wonder what "a short time ago" really means? Reminds me of "ran when parked".
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Old 07-31-2021, 03:23 PM   #7
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Can you remove the transmission cover and see what's going on inside the transmission regarding the shifting forks, etc? Is there fluid in the transmission?

Wonder what "a short time ago" really means? Reminds me of "ran when parked".
Sadly, but exactly.
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Old 07-31-2021, 07:04 PM   #8
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It won't engage or it won't disengage? In other words if the engine is running
you cant get the transmission into gear or you have it in gear and the truck
won't move when you let the clutch pedal out.
with engine running can not get into gear
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Old 07-31-2021, 07:05 PM   #9
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Truck was driven within the last 30 days.....

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Old 07-31-2021, 08:00 PM   #10
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If the free play and pedal feels good probably the clutch disc is
stuck to the flywheel, not really that uncommon.
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Old 07-31-2021, 09:52 PM   #11
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If the free play and pedal feels good probably the clutch disc is
stuck to the flywheel, not really that uncommon.
I had this same problem with my '51 when I stored it for a couple of years. We took the car out on a deserted road in neutral. put it in gear and push started it. It broke free quite quickly.
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Old 08-01-2021, 05:33 AM   #12
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The first thing I would check is the linkage to make sure nothing is disconnected.
Yup, start with the simple stuff.
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Old 08-02-2021, 10:52 AM   #13
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Put it in high gear and hold the brake. Then try to start it. That will quite likely unstick the disc.

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Old 08-02-2021, 02:10 PM   #14
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..... the clutch disc is
stuck to the flywheel, not really that uncommon.
Interesting. I've been driving manual vehicles since 1976 and
I've never experienced this.

Just lucky I guess.....
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Old 08-02-2021, 02:12 PM   #15
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When it happened to me, the car had been stored in an unheated garage in Minnesota for 3 years.

Once it freed up, it worked like it had before.
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Old 08-02-2021, 02:39 PM   #16
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It happens to vehicles stored in humid area with the clutch pedal up. I found on my tractor that If i block the clutch pedal down for a few days it allows the disc to relax and it breaks loose easier.
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Old 08-03-2021, 08:41 PM   #17
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So far no luck in freeing clutch and flywheel... just keep trying the many suggestion,

Thanks everyone for your helpful input.....

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Old 08-03-2021, 10:13 PM   #18
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I've had a few stuck clutches on the near dead junk I drag home. If it runs, I go out on the gravel road I live on in first gear, hold the clutch pedal to the floor and stomp on and off the gas pedal to get as much violence happening as you can. Usually works. If it doesn't run, I will park it on the hill in my driveway, in first gear, clutch in, and rock it back and forth with the bobcat pushing up, gravity pushing down, and again, as much violence as you can make. the slop in the drive train sorta acts like an impact gun when the play is used up, it gets a hit
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Old 08-04-2021, 12:24 PM   #19
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Any suggested tricks in removing trans inspection cover....

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Old 08-04-2021, 12:44 PM   #20
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The clutch inspection cover is shown below; there is no trans inspection cover. What exactly do you mean?
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Old 08-04-2021, 01:26 PM   #21
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Floor board cover, to get at inspection cover....
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Old 08-04-2021, 01:31 PM   #22
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Shift cover, inside the cab
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Disconnect the throttle pedal (pull hard on the top of the pedal, it mates with a ball on the linkage). Undo a bajillion small screws around the cover, lift off over the shifter and the end of the accelerator linkage. It's easier with the seat out.
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Old 08-04-2021, 02:23 PM   #24
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Thanks, will do..... this is my first experience with a clutch issue.....
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Old 08-04-2021, 03:14 PM   #25
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If it is a clutch disc that is stuck to the flywheel, then put
the vehicle in high gear, hold the clutch pedal to the floor,
then have a few people rock the vehicle back and forth, the
disc should come un-stuck from the flywheel.




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with engine running can not get into gear
Guys, he didn't say "stuck clutch"

The clutch actuating rod has a threaded clevis on the end where it attaches to the clutch pedal lever.
Pull the cotter pin and remove the connecting pin, turn the clevis ccw 2 or 3 turns (make it longer) and reassemble. Try to get trans in gear with the engine running.
If it won't, re-do and go a little longer on the adjustment until it works!
Simple as that
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:38 PM   #27
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If there is proper free play, and it wont go in gear...its a stuck clutch disk I would suspect
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Old 08-05-2021, 06:26 AM   #29
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The motor runs fine, truck is presently on jacks stands. Can not shift into gear with the motor running with clutch depressed. Nothing has been done with the truck for years, I bought from it the family of a deceased friend, they said it was driven a short distance about a month ago..... I've tried all of your suggestion, I have not checked on the linkage adjustments suggested....
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Old 08-05-2021, 12:30 PM   #30
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Hey guys, I got it, clutch is back in action, thanks for all your help

Finally broke loose hitting the brakes at a bit higher RPM

Feels good - Jim
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excellent ! now drive it
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Thanks to everyone who shouted out with helpful suggestions.....

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