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King ford · 03-08-2015, 08:43 AM

greetings fellow barners..I have a question for you guys that know your fords better than I do ...since cars and pickups used the same chassis in 1935 ( at lest I believe they did) did the engine/ cereal # indicate car or pickup? ..thanks in advance guys!

TJ · 03-08-2015, 09:27 AM

The answer is no

itslow · 03-09-2015, 11:41 AM

Only way to know is to find out what the guy stamping the numbers had for breakfast that day. May have been a Wheaties day or it may have been a Rice Krispies day. Unfortunately, since the fella is probably long gone, we'll likely never know...

Ralph Moore · 03-09-2015, 04:55 PM

Corn flakes!

r_reed · 03-09-2015, 05:17 PM

give him a break guys, wrong word, but spelled it right. he also spelled chassis right.

BILL WZOREK · 03-09-2015, 06:04 PM

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rheltzel · 03-09-2015, 06:16 PM

For all Ford V8 trivia lovers, I offer the following: while the basic chassis was shared between commercial and passenger cars, the commercial, open car, and station wagon frame rails were made of 10% thicker steel (0.11 vs. 0.10 of an inch).

Now, tell me your life hasn't been enriched by knowing this.

BILL WZOREK · 03-09-2015, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rheltzel

For all Ford V8 trivia lovers, I offer the following: while the basic chassis was shared between commercial and passenger cars, the commercial, open car, and station wagon frame rails were made of 10% thicker steel (0.11 vs. 0.10 of an inch).

Now, tell me your life hasn't been enriched by knowing this.

NOW WE ARE COOKING WITH GAS

FACTS JUST THE FACTS on this site LOL

Lanny · 03-09-2015, 06:27 PM

Sorry King ford, some of childish members here are just razzzzin you a little.

Hope you can take it in stride, as you will hopefully get some good
advise here, on the info you seek.......

.

Willit Stop · 03-09-2015, 06:29 PM

That's incorrect Bill.....it should be Phord. What happened to your command of the English language?

BILL WZOREK · 03-09-2015, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willit Stop

That's incorrect Bill.....it should be Phord. What happened to your command of the English language?

2 SHAY

rheltzel · 03-09-2015, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WZOREK

NOW WE ARE COOKING WITH GAS

FACTS JUST THE FACTS on this site LOL

Well, Bill, there's definitely a lot of gas in this thread...

Don Rogers · 03-10-2015, 09:06 AM

King ford, To address your original question......The serial number was stamped on the transmission of the motor/transmission assembly as it came off the motor assembly line. The number was then transferred to the chassis frame as the motor was lowered into the frame. There was no distinction as to whether it was lowered into a passenger car frame (48-5005) or a pickup frame (50-5005) So the serial number tells you nothing about the type of vehicle.
Your second question had to do with whether the pickup and passenger frames were the same.......
They were similar but not identical. In 1935 there was one frame for all passenger cars (48-5005). This included open and closed cars as well as station wagons and sedan deliveries. Pickups and panel deliveries used a slightly different frame (50-5005). This frame was the same as the 48-5005 except that the side pillar support brackets were not installed. These brackets were used to support the wider passenger car body. Pickup and Panel Delivery restorers often use the more readily available 48-5005 frame and remove the side brackets.

34pickup · 03-10-2015, 10:08 AM

Phunny stuff hear.

Mike51Merc · 03-10-2015, 12:15 PM

I learned over time to read foneticly in internetland.

hop2it · 03-10-2015, 03:20 PM

King phord. I thought was charcoal brickets.
Doug

TagMan · 03-10-2015, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rheltzel

For all Ford V8 trivia lovers, I offer the following: while the basic chassis was shared between commercial and passenger cars, the commercial, open car, and station wagon frame rails were made of 10% thicker steel (0.11 vs. 0.10 of an inch).

Now, tell me your life hasn't been enriched by knowing this.

I'm hoping you meant (.110" vs .100" of an inch". .010" inch thick frame would be a little flimsy, even for a Ford !!

ReggieK · 03-10-2015, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TagMan

I'm hoping you meant (.110" vs .100" of an inch". .010" inch thick frame would be a little flimsy, even for a Ford !!

He did not have a zero after the decimal point, you placed the zero there. Please note, what he stated is correct. .110" vs .100"

rheltzel · 03-10-2015, 04:50 PM

Indeed, TagMan, you are correct. You will note that I put a 0 in front of the decimal, as in "0.11", another way of expressing ".110", as in your note, above.

Willit Stop · 03-10-2015, 05:10 PM

It looks like we've graduated from spelling to dyslexia (.110,.100,0.11). But we're having fun huh? At least King ford got the answer he was looking for.

03-08-2015, 08:43 AM	#1
King ford Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: New jersey (south) Posts: 210	Cereal # question pu - car greetings fellow barners..I have a question for you guys that know your fords better than I do ...since cars and pickups used the same chassis in 1935 ( at lest I believe they did) did the engine/ cereal # indicate car or pickup? ..thanks in advance guys!

03-08-2015, 09:27 AM	#2
TJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napa,California Posts: 6,037	Re: Cereal # question pu - car The answer is no

03-09-2015, 11:41 AM	#3
itslow Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central Iowa Posts: 691	Re: Cereal # question pu - car Only way to know is to find out what the guy stamping the numbers had for breakfast that day. May have been a Wheaties day or it may have been a Rice Krispies day. Unfortunately, since the fella is probably long gone, we'll likely never know... __________________ Mike Wanted: - '32-34 Open Cab Pickup (RPU) parts and documents/articles/info - ARDUN parts

03-09-2015, 04:55 PM	#4
Ralph Moore Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North Pole, Alaska Posts: 1,470	Re: Cereal # question pu - car Corn flakes!

03-09-2015, 05:17 PM	#5
r_reed Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: east glenville NY Posts: 158	Re: Cereal # question pu - car give him a break guys, wrong word, but spelled it right. he also spelled chassis right. __________________ 1949 F-1 Flatrod II (flat paint, flat motor) Keeping one more flathead alive It smoked, but gave it up 7/26/2013 East Glenville NY

03-09-2015, 06:04 PM	#6
BILL WZOREK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florence Ma. Posts: 2,404	Re: Cereal # question pu - car Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) SPELLINGPOLICE are Back >>>>>> YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK <<<<<< If there is no " F " in phone Does that mean you should spell FORD >> PORD << ?????????????????

03-09-2015, 06:16 PM	#7
rheltzel Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 368	Re: Cereal # question pu - car For all Ford V8 trivia lovers, I offer the following: while the basic chassis was shared between commercial and passenger cars, the commercial, open car, and station wagon frame rails were made of 10% thicker steel (0.11 vs. 0.10 of an inch). Now, tell me your life hasn't been enriched by knowing this.

03-09-2015, 06:27 PM	#9
Lanny Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mn Posts: 2,411	Re: Cereal # question pu - car Sorry King ford, some of childish members here are just razzzzin you a little. Hope you can take it in stride, as you will hopefully get some good advise here, on the info you seek....... . __________________ If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. But if daddy ain't happy...RUN

03-09-2015, 06:29 PM	#10
Willit Stop Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Eureka Calif. Posts: 969	Re: Cereal # question pu - car That's incorrect Bill.....it should be Phord. What happened to your command of the English language?

03-10-2015, 09:06 AM	#13
Don Rogers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wildwood, MO. (near St. Louis) Posts: 1,792	Re: Cereal # question pu - car King ford, To address your original question......The serial number was stamped on the transmission of the motor/transmission assembly as it came off the motor assembly line. The number was then transferred to the chassis frame as the motor was lowered into the frame. There was no distinction as to whether it was lowered into a passenger car frame (48-5005) or a pickup frame (50-5005) So the serial number tells you nothing about the type of vehicle. Your second question had to do with whether the pickup and passenger frames were the same....... They were similar but not identical. In 1935 there was one frame for all passenger cars (48-5005). This included open and closed cars as well as station wagons and sedan deliveries. Pickups and panel deliveries used a slightly different frame (50-5005). This frame was the same as the 48-5005 except that the side pillar support brackets were not installed. These brackets were used to support the wider passenger car body. Pickup and Panel Delivery restorers often use the more readily available 48-5005 frame and remove the side brackets.

03-10-2015, 10:08 AM	#14
34pickup Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Huntsville Al Posts: 1,526	Re: Cereal # question pu - car Phunny stuff hear. __________________ Matt 24:36-41

03-10-2015, 12:15 PM	#15
Mike51Merc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 1,582	Re: Cereal # question pu - car I learned over time to read foneticly in internetland.

03-10-2015, 03:20 PM	#16
hop2it Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fairport NY Posts: 35	Re: Cereal # question pu - car King phord. I thought was charcoal brickets. Doug

03-10-2015, 04:50 PM	#19
rheltzel Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 368	Re: Cereal # question pu - car Indeed, TagMan, you are correct. You will note that I put a 0 in front of the decimal, as in "0.11", another way of expressing ".110", as in your note, above.

03-10-2015, 05:10 PM	#20
Willit Stop Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Eureka Calif. Posts: 969	Re: Cereal # question pu - car It looks like we've graduated from spelling to dyslexia (.110,.100,0.11). But we're having fun huh? At least King ford got the answer he was looking for.