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Old 08-17-2021, 03:26 PM   #381
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The 2nd run of "New Engine Kits" is in production.

I spoke with John Lampl today regarding the status and other problems.

China is still dealing with Covid problems and all foundries now have to use electricity instead of coal for their furnaces because of air pollution.

The 2nd production run will require several shipping containers to get everything shipped.

The factory in China has promised to deliver the first container load of parts to the container loading facility by September 2, 2021. This container will not hold enough "New Engine Kits" to fill the orders for the 300+ people on the waiting list.

Priority will be given to the 67 people that were on the list before March 30, 2021, and they will receive a "New Engine Kit" at the introductory price. Others on the list after March 30, 2021, will have to pay $3950 for the "New Engine Kit".

John Lampl is trying to increase the quantity for production run #2 so that all orders can be filled and we will have some warehouse stock that we can sell at $3950.

When production run #3 is negotiated, it may be more expensive because electrical furnaces are now required, there is a Covid problem, and the cost of fuel for transportation is near an all-time high.

There are 2 websites for the "New Engine". One is www.modelaengine.com that addresses the technical details, and the other is www.burtzblock.com that is oriented towards marketing, quality assurance, and scheduling.

John Lampl will be publishing delivery updates on www.burtzblock.com.

The attached pictures are of cylinder blocks for production run #2.
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Old 08-17-2021, 03:46 PM   #382
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Wow, that radial arm photo brings back memories. Used to operate one back in the 70's at John D.
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Old 08-17-2021, 06:07 PM   #383
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Diesel fuel, in a small amount. The flash point is higher from diesel while gasoline is lower and the alcohol is even lower, add to that the ambient temperatures of 100° and higher complicates matters for a cast iron carburetor, cast iron intake, heated up from a cast iron exhaust bolted to it. Your results may differ where you live and the gas that’s available where you drive. On my trip whenever straight gasoline was available, and that was in more locations than I ever imagined there to be, then I bought the higher priced straight gasoline.
Maybe a little diesel fuel in the tank filled with ethanol fuel will behave differently from when no ethanol is present. Using it with straight petrol is a BIG no-no. It will destroy your engine in very short time. When it burns, a coarse, abrasive grit is produced which grinds the internals of the engine to an early death. I've seen as little as a single tank of fuel with 12% diesel in it cause a motor to start smoking within the tankful.
Straight petrol is available everywhere here and I refuse to use E10 rubbish.
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Old 08-17-2021, 08:51 PM   #384
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Not a choice here in SoCal, same with Colorado I believe. I never did see plain ol gas when I was passing through.
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Old 08-17-2021, 09:09 PM   #385
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Synchro, Btw, how was the trip? Make it back home?
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Old 08-18-2021, 06:08 AM   #386
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Old 08-18-2021, 11:09 AM   #388
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Every station should have a choice of non ethanol. Why should people have to drive out of their way to get regular gas without the corn crap in it? We’ve gotten way off the subject here of the new Terry Burtz Model A engine.

For the record I have 8500 plus miles on my new engine, still has the Terry Burtz recommended oil pressure at the time of build of 20 psi, and the engine is running the same the day I headed for the Midwest from SoCal.
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For the record I have 8500 plus miles on my new engine, still has the Terry Burtz recommended oil pressure at the time of build of 20 psi, and the engine is running the same the day I headed for the Midwest from SoCal.
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Synchro, Btw, how was the trip? Make it back home?
Of course I did. I drive a Model A.
There were 2 1928 Chevs, a Rugby (sold over there as a Star) and my Model A. All of the cars had a problem but keeping them going is part of the challenge and the feeling of satisfaction when we get home.
I'll be dining out for a while on our stories.
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I wonder what those workers think about making 90+ year old design blocks? They surely talk about how different they are.
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Yeah and I’m curious what the heck does that 2 cylinder block next to the Burtz blocks go in.
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Won’t work, they forgot the valves!
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Won’t work, they forgot the valves!
That is part of a modern engine...
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Modern? Like a Model B?
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I'm a 'guessin' you were working at the Dubuque Wks. from the location of your Avatar.

I retired out of Deere Harv. Wks. E. Moline, Combine repair. Combine engines were coming to us out of Dubuque back in those days probably still do.

Maybe we can get the Dubuque Foundry to cast Terry's new engines! I'll speak with the Deere CEO.................
In Waterloo, foundry cast some Iron Dukes for Pontiac way back when. Also assembled motor home chassis for Winnebago for awhile. Maybe the could do A blocks.
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In Waterloo, foundry cast some Iron Dukes for Pontiac way back when. Also assembled motor home chassis for Winnebago for awhile. Maybe the could do A blocks.
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Production/Delivery
The 2nd production run of "New Engine Kits" is running late because of government mandates that foundries revert to electric-fired furnaces (as opposed to coal) to reduce emissions. Electric furnaces only have about half the output per unit as their coal counterparts. Further, new Covid outbreaks in China port operations (particularly the port of Ningbo) have slowed the embarkation of containers. This is having a ripple effect on other ports as many volumes are shifting from Ningbo to Shanghai and Qingdao.

Additionally, there is a great shortage of shipping containers in China which contributes to the slowdown of loading operations and results in vessel departure delays. Our current delivery of block kits is scheduled to depart Shanghai on the 2nd of September but now appears to be delayed until September 15th.

The first container will be shipped to Savannah, GA for distribution from our warehouse in Franklin, KY. We expect to ship "New Engine Kits" from the warehouse around the 2nd to 3rd week of October 2021.

The 2nd container should arrive a month or so later in Los Angeles for distribution from our Hawthorne, CA warehouse. I checked today, and there are 44 container ships off the coast of Los Angeles in a holding pattern waiting to unload cargo.



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The "Builders Guide" strongly suggests that home builders utilize the facilities and knowledge of professional engine builders.

The "New Model A Engine" is closer to 2000 technology than it is to 1920's technology, and home builders need to work with engine builders familiar with new engines.

There have been a few cases where home builders and engine builders familiar with 1920's technology don't understand modern insert bearings and the bores that they fit into.

The bores are circular, and the modern inserts are spread at the parting line. Before assembly, the inserts protrude above the parting line, and when assembled, the inserts become flush with the parting line and become circular with the equivalent of a press fit.

The bearing tabs are for locating and are not used to keep the insert from spinning in the bore.

Please don't remove material from the parting plane of the inserts, fail to follow the "Builders Guide" regarding stud clearance, or shim bearing caps because you think that the line boring bar machined oval holes.

The attached pictures are of the 2nd production run.
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