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Old 06-30-2021, 01:27 PM   #1
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Question King pins on ‘35

Putting ‘28-‘48 spindles on my ‘35 to accommodate Bendix backing plates. Car needs king pins so will change @ same time. Question should I get king pins for a ‘35 or the ‘48 or do they take the same ones? I think the latter?
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Get the king pins for the spindles.
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28-48?
You use the pins that go with your spindles. What spindles are you using?
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Old 06-30-2021, 02:55 PM   #4
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Anthony.....As the guys have said above, you always use K-pins designed for the year of spindle, because the different spindles use different LENGTH K-pins, as well as other features like the BRAKE cups on the top of '36 and EARLIER K-pins.

ALL king pins are the SAME diameter, yet that diameter is very exacting. SOME cheap-ass reproduction K-pins are a couple (or MORE) of thousandths TOO small, and may not even have the proper hardness for the severe service. If it were me, I would not procure your K-pins from Speedway or Mac's (Ecklers), as their exacting quality control COULD be suspect. I would order your K-pins from Michael Driskell at 3rd Gen in McMinville, Tn., or Mac VanPelt.....two guys that KNOW their stuff as well as the quality of their parts, and who strive to "DO RIGHT" by their customers. DD
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Old 06-30-2021, 08:32 PM   #5
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The often mentioned quality of Speedway parts gets tiresome, and really, do we know where anyone sources the merchandise they sell?
I just mic’ed three k/p sets, an old Lion set for ‘35-‘36, a brand new Moog ‘42-48 set that I’ve had on the shelf for 50 years and a Speedway ‘37-‘41 set. While I cannot speak to the actual Rockwell hardness a rudimentary check by striking with a center punch shows them to be close. Yeah, I know it’s not very scientific but it did show that all three are hard. The Speedway set uses more current technology, it was induction hardened as seen by the dark ring in the photo. Here are the numbers, Lion- .8118/.8119, .8127/.8131, Moog- .8115/.8118, .8119/.8122 and Speedway- .8122/.8118 .8121/.8119. With the old reamers around that usually ream to .813 or so I think there is an endorsement to be made for honing at the machine shop for a perfect fit.
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Just don't use the ones with roller bearings. Put in new bearing and have the king pins reamed to fit.
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Anthony.....As the guys have said above, you always use K-pins designed for the year of spindle, because the different spindles use different LENGTH K-pins, as well as other features like the BRAKE cups on the top of '36 and EARLIER K-pins.

ALL king pins are the SAME diameter, yet that diameter is very exacting. SOME cheap-ass reproduction K-pins are a couple (or MORE) of thousandths TOO small, and may not even have the proper hardness for the severe service. If it were me, I would not procure your K-pins from Speedway or Mac's (Ecklers), as their exacting quality control COULD be suspect. I would order your K-pins from Michael Driskell at 3rd Gen in McMinville, Tn., or Mac VanPelt.....two guys that KNOW their stuff as well as the quality of their parts, and who strive to "DO RIGHT" by their customers. DD

I do believe they are. but some are keyed for the wheel lock out set pin. At least in 38. Anything below and after are above my paygrade.
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Sourcing king pins. Better safe than sorry, NOS, NORS or rely on 3rd gen or MAc as suggested.
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Sourcing king pins. Better safe than sorry, NOS, NORS or rely on 3rd gen or MAc as suggested.
Don't forget Fred @ Southside Obsolete for NOS as well. Barnfind08 here on the barn.
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Thx for all the good Info & tips! I’ll keep as reference material! Researched a bit more & discovered in fine print “Spindles require ‘37-‘41 king pins.
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I forgot to list Fred at SSO. Glad Tim brought it up. Fred is the go to guy for lot of NOS & NORS parts. I got my '40 king pins from him. Kept the cool old box they came in "Haines King bolt Set".
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I forgot to list Fred at SSO. Glad Tim brought it up. Fred is the go to guy for lot of NOS & NORS parts.

I overlooked Fred this time, too....in a hurry! One of the "GOOD", serious guys for sure!
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