carburetor 13/32 deep well socket

[Russell in Tulsa]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

But, are they 6 point, and are they open enough for the GAV to fit deep enough for the hex to engage the socket?

Tom, look at post #43.
Russell

[haag1332]

back when i started looking into this for my father, I bought a cheap set that said it had a 13/32 in it. Turned out it wasn't even actually in the set when I opened it, but listed it on the front packaging of the box.

Bill

[haag1332]

Tom was talking about the walmart set

[jmeckel]

I am in.

[Brentwood Bob]

I am confirming that I still want 2.
Bob

[tbirdtbird]

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Haha,
"Turned out it wasn't even actually in the set when I opened it, but listed it on the front packaging of the box."
there is no way in blazes that a commercially mfg 6 pt 13/32 deep socket is actually being made. That is a zebra. There would be absolutely NO application for it in today's world. You would be better off trying to market a commercially made 7-pt deep 77/192 socket!!!!

[haag1332]

Hey Tbird, I'll bet you 500 dollars I could make that 7 point 77/192 socket if you really want one, lmao. Gonna need the 500 in advance though to buy the special tooling lol

Bill

[haag1332]

Oh, and tbird, just so you know, 77/192 actually works out to 10mm

[Y-Blockhead]

Originally Posted by Jwilli

I was at Walmart today.

Just admitting you were in Walmart makes me bewildered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVrw...Q&spfreload=10

[Jwilli]

Y-Blockhead, good link. I think I saw some of those people there.

[jax55]

I am still in for two of these.

[MikeK]

Still in for Two!

[tbirdtbird]

1332, haha i am sure you could make that socket! And I just pulled 77/192out of thin air!
But the burning question is, on a 7-pt socket, you measure from where to where? haha LOL
Not horribly different than a 5-pt hydrant wrench ?

[haag1332]

Originally Posted by tbirdtbird

1332, haha i am sure you could make that socket! And I just pulled 77/192out of thin air!
But the burning question is, on a 7-pt socket, you measure from where to where? haha LOL
Not horribly different than a 5-pt hydrant wrench ?

It would be the diameter tangent to the flats.

Bill

[MikeK]

Here's a five sided socket and some penta-bolts:

For the guy that has everything in his tool box!

[haag1332]

Originally Posted by MikeK

Here's a five sided socket and some penta-bolts:

For the guy that has everything in his tool box!

Somehow I knew someone was going to try and elaborate on this odd number sided bolt thing, lol.

I could bore everyone with the details of why odd number facets have been used on fasteners and spline shafts, and everything else, but it would be boring, lol.

Quite simply put though, lol. Everything round that rotates has a natural harmonic, when the natural harmonic matches some multiple of the revolutions in 360 degrees, you will experience a synchronous, or subsynchronous vibration. So naturally everyone has tried to design around this. Since a circle still always has 360 degrees, people have tried to design odd number fasteners used in line with the rotating component to offset synchronous vibration..........never mind, gonna stop here before I write a book. But it's kinda like when your car shakes at only 35, and 60 or whatever. Things have been balanced, but unfortunately there will always be some sort of distortion or imbalance presented at some components natural harmonic. Usually these vibrations will be directly attributed to the diameter of a specific component..... ok gonna stop.

[haag1332]

Just food for thought though. Why are there 3 cylinder diesels and 5 cylinder chevrolet gasoline engines? The ultimate goal of overcoming natural harmonics. The thought is if you break up the 360 degrees unevenly, there will be no natural harmonic, but it doesn't work. I have got to stop. I am sorry I even mentioned any of this stuff on this thread. My apologies.

[haag1332]

Back to the point of this whole thing. At this point, we have confirmation of at least 50 sockets, so that helps immensely with this project.

I will be placing orders for the blanks and tooling tomorrow/Friday. So the project is a go. Just to say it again, it will probably take about 3 weeks or a bit more to fit this run of 100 sockets into my shop schedule. When I eventually sell the 100, it will cover the cost, which is a risk myself, my father, and apparently someone else is willing to take/absorb to see this through, since we all believe there is enough interest to support it eventually.

I will keep everyone up to date via this thread on a regular basis so you know where we stand with this project. All who have expressed/re-expressed interest will be notified, prior to the general public, or dealers, or anything else when the sockets are ready. In essence, if you have requested one or more, you will get them before any new interests are fulfilled.

I really do appreciate the support of everyone with this undertaking, and the kind words expressed by numerous people during pm's and emails and such. And I do feel privileged to be able to help with this need.

Thank you all,

Bill

[Y-Blockhead]

Originally Posted by haag1332

... But it's kinda like when your car shakes at only 35, and 60 or whatever. Things have been balanced, but unfortunately there will always be some sort of distortion or imbalance presented at some components natural harmonic. Usually these vibrations will be directly attributed to the diameter of a specific component..... .

Reminds me back when I worked at Chevron Refinery. When starting a centrifugal pump it was important to get it up to full speed so to pass through "Critical Speed" (the RPM that the natural harmonics occurred) quickly.

[haag1332]

You are correct blockhead. Just like when they roll out a steam turbine generator in a power plant and such, slow till you get lube oil and such for 8-24 hours, when up to temp and pressure, then 3600 rpm to get past the criticals. Little more complex and such, but same kinda thing.