The Ford Barn

barnfind · 01-21-2011, 03:46 PM

How about importing granite from India as well and selling it from a US state and city known for it's granite.

boman5 · 01-21-2011, 05:55 PM

not only will I not own/drive a Jap car I won't even buy from Napa anymore due to their Toyota Nascar sponsorship

Kentf1003 · 01-22-2011, 09:14 PM

As shipping prices are sky rocketing local American companies are gaining some advantage. It's cheaper to ship locally. Big Brown ads are begging companies to think internationally as their long distance rates keep increasing. That's actually helping U.S. factories.

Marvin/TN · 01-23-2011, 08:55 PM

Not me, I have only owned one foreign car (65 VW) in my 70 years of life and never ever plan to own another one. Some how the American public has come to believe Foreign made cars are better than what is made in this country. I 1994 Olds 88 LSS got as good or better millage in comfort than most od the smaller foreign cars, usually 32 to 33 MPH at 75 miles per hour

Barry-ct · 01-18-2011, 07:30 PM

Most of the aftermarket stuff is Chinese because of the fierce competition between Napa, CarQuest, Advance and others. To make matters worse, I work for a Ford dealer in Parts and alot of the wheels on the 2010-2011 cars are Chinese! Ford recently did a replacement on some Edges because the chrome was peeling! Some of the electronic modules are made in China. Many of the seals and bearings are Chinese. Profit before quality. Gm has the same issues with thier parts.
Sad state of affairs we're in these days...............

Barry

50 F-1

farmer dave · 01-18-2011, 07:52 PM

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NOS now means new off shore

Ralph Moore · 01-18-2011, 08:07 PM

As was said, if you search you can find good bearings, I went to Need Another Part Again, and was handed a pile of Chinese/ Mexico bearings, for one of my trucks. I gave them back and went to the local Gear and driveline store and specified made in USA, they had them all and they were cheaper, Although I would have still bought them if they were more expensive.

BUBBAS IGNITION · 01-18-2011, 10:41 PM

As we discuss this using a jap computer , no jap cars at my house either ...

Tim Ayers · 01-18-2011, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUBBAS IGNITION

As we discuss this using a jap computer , no jap cars at my house either ...

Well, made in China really but I understand your point.

peewee2you · 01-18-2011, 11:02 PM

We export our steel to them they are the biggest consumer in Steel, so the parts will be produced there more and more. However, I believe some of the products being imported are of better quality from China compared to years ago from there, but doesn't mean everything is of quality. We can only hope that we have input to the spects of our goods being made and that some how we can quality control them periodically.

Bill in Al · 01-18-2011, 11:43 PM

Don't forget this;The Chinese factories make what the United States companies order from China to the quality specifications made by these same United States companies. It is the money saved (made) by these United States companies that force the junk quality stuff on us that we don't have to buy.We do get some good quality parts from China imported by companies not so money hungry that they cut quality to make bigger profits. It's not the Chinese quality--It's us!!

Barry-ct · 01-19-2011, 06:28 PM

We are our own worst enemy. But, on the other hand, US companies are interested in minimum investment and max profits. The number one force behind all this is the stockholder. They have to take care of the stockholders. We got a fuel pump at work today for a used car, a GM, and the pump is made in China. It says on the box made in Mainland China. The pump sells for over $400 list price. Not much is made here anymore. Ford buys electronics from Mexico, Phillipines and china. Truck mirrors come from Australia. Many plastic trim pieces come from Malaysia, India and Indonesia. Alot of parts come from who knows where and are assembled here. Ford Parts Cataloging is done in India, Many of the words used are of British spelling. Many of the illustrations are Japanese ( Mazda ). Cataloging is not what it used to be. Pics stink and descriptions are translations and misleading.
We asked for this and we're really getting it, without the aid of vaseline!

Barry

50 F-1

danliveshere · 01-19-2011, 07:03 PM

Guys we face the same issues here in australia. We have a campaign to buy australian owned and australan made to save local jobs. One by one our manufacturers are either going overseas to have products made or they are bought by super multi national companies. These mn companies dictate the world we live in i'm afraid.

Flathead · 01-22-2011, 03:16 PM

Toyota doesn't build anything to compete with either of those!! Or a Hemi Cuda, Cobra-jet Mustang, Buick Gran Sport, Olds 442, Pontiac GTO. All gone into history now.

ole_Bill · 01-22-2011, 04:55 PM

The measure of a true patriot is one who has an American flag decal on his Japanese car.

FlatheadTed · 01-22-2011, 05:07 PM

Well Boys at least we are promoting USA made .I shot this at a local swap meet here in NZ

done4 · 01-22-2011, 05:10 PM

I've been a chevy guy all of my life, because my dad was. Sadly a chevy ain't a true chevy any more. As for NAPA they sponsor a rice burner and have no loyalty to this country. Their only loyalty is to high profits.

Teich · 01-22-2011, 11:11 PM

being in Canada geting parts made in "north america" would be nice, then japan, now as all have said who knows where! Owned one jap car a Mazda rotary, now it's Dodge and of course a 48 Ford. If there were more cars and parts for them built in US and Canada more people would have jobs and could buy more things made here. Just think of all the good stuff we couldget then!!! Laurie

Merc Cruzer · 01-23-2011, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teich

being in Canada geting parts made in "north america" would be nice, then japan, now as all have said who knows where! Owned one jap car a Mazda rotary, now it's Dodge and of course a 48 Ford. If there were more cars and parts for them built in US and Canada more people would have jobs and could buy more things made here. Just think of all the good stuff we couldget then!!! Laurie

Laurie: First of all my wife is Canadian (London, Ontario) so I agree with you completely.....but remember North America includes all countries north of the Panama Cannel...

"If we are not careful we will be buying our radios from Japan"
Preston Tucker - Tucker Automobile Company

I have do doubt that Henry is rolling in his grave, as much of the same steel he made is now being shipped to China as scrap....and is coming back as part for his cars!!!!

sturgis 39 · 01-23-2011, 07:36 AM

All items manufactured in the USA carry at least a 50% tax burden. Taxes range from state and federal corporate income tax to surcharges on telephone calls. Real Estate, county, social security, business licenses, fuel taxes, unemployment taxes, work mens compensation on and on and on.
These taxes make us non competitive in the world economy.

I would mention Ethanol but I think one of the monitors is from Iowa and he will delete this tread.

Never under estimate the power of a large group of stupid people.

01-21-2011, 03:46 PM	#1
barnfind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 451	Re: So sad! How about importing granite from India as well and selling it from a US state and city known for it's granite.

01-21-2011, 05:55 PM	#2
boman5 Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7	Re: So sad! not only will I not own/drive a Jap car I won't even buy from Napa anymore due to their Toyota Nascar sponsorship

01-22-2011, 09:14 PM	#3
Kentf1003 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 138	Re: So sad! As shipping prices are sky rocketing local American companies are gaining some advantage. It's cheaper to ship locally. Big Brown ads are begging companies to think internationally as their long distance rates keep increasing. That's actually helping U.S. factories.

01-23-2011, 08:55 PM	#4
Marvin/TN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chattanooga, TN area Posts: 832	Re: So sad! Not me, I have only owned one foreign car (65 VW) in my 70 years of life and never ever plan to own another one. Some how the American public has come to believe Foreign made cars are better than what is made in this country. I 1994 Olds 88 LSS got as good or better millage in comfort than most od the smaller foreign cars, usually 32 to 33 MPH at 75 miles per hour

01-18-2011, 07:30 PM	#5
Barry-ct Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Newington, Connecticut Posts: 1,374	Re: So sad! Most of the aftermarket stuff is Chinese because of the fierce competition between Napa, CarQuest, Advance and others. To make matters worse, I work for a Ford dealer in Parts and alot of the wheels on the 2010-2011 cars are Chinese! Ford recently did a replacement on some Edges because the chrome was peeling! Some of the electronic modules are made in China. Many of the seals and bearings are Chinese. Profit before quality. Gm has the same issues with thier parts. Sad state of affairs we're in these days............... Barry 50 F-1

01-18-2011, 07:52 PM	#6
farmer dave Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 30	Re: So sad! Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) NOS now means new off shore

01-18-2011, 08:07 PM	#7
Ralph Moore Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North Pole, Alaska Posts: 1,470	Re: So sad! As was said, if you search you can find good bearings, I went to Need Another Part Again, and was handed a pile of Chinese/ Mexico bearings, for one of my trucks. I gave them back and went to the local Gear and driveline store and specified made in USA, they had them all and they were cheaper, Although I would have still bought them if they were more expensive.

01-18-2011, 10:41 PM	#8
BUBBAS IGNITION Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: SPEEDWAY INDIANA Posts: 4,148	Re: So sad! As we discuss this using a jap computer , no jap cars at my house either ... __________________ If it Makes Spark, we do it !!!! www.bubbasignition.com [email protected]

01-18-2011, 11:02 PM	#10
peewee2you Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 664	Re: So sad! We export our steel to them they are the biggest consumer in Steel, so the parts will be produced there more and more. However, I believe some of the products being imported are of better quality from China compared to years ago from there, but doesn't mean everything is of quality. We can only hope that we have input to the spects of our goods being made and that some how we can quality control them periodically.

01-18-2011, 11:43 PM	#11
Bill in Al Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pell City (New London) Al Posts: 317	Re: So sad! Don't forget this;The Chinese factories make what the United States companies order from China to the quality specifications made by these same United States companies. It is the money saved (made) by these United States companies that force the junk quality stuff on us that we don't have to buy.We do get some good quality parts from China imported by companies not so money hungry that they cut quality to make bigger profits. It's not the Chinese quality--It's us!!

01-19-2011, 06:28 PM	#12
Barry-ct Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Newington, Connecticut Posts: 1,374	Re: So sad! We are our own worst enemy. But, on the other hand, US companies are interested in minimum investment and max profits. The number one force behind all this is the stockholder. They have to take care of the stockholders. We got a fuel pump at work today for a used car, a GM, and the pump is made in China. It says on the box made in Mainland China. The pump sells for over $400 list price. Not much is made here anymore. Ford buys electronics from Mexico, Phillipines and china. Truck mirrors come from Australia. Many plastic trim pieces come from Malaysia, India and Indonesia. Alot of parts come from who knows where and are assembled here. Ford Parts Cataloging is done in India, Many of the words used are of British spelling. Many of the illustrations are Japanese ( Mazda ). Cataloging is not what it used to be. Pics stink and descriptions are translations and misleading. We asked for this and we're really getting it, without the aid of vaseline! Barry 50 F-1

01-19-2011, 07:03 PM	#13
danliveshere Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cairns , Australia Posts: 891	Re: So sad! Guys we face the same issues here in australia. We have a campaign to buy australian owned and australan made to save local jobs. One by one our manufacturers are either going overseas to have products made or they are bought by super multi national companies. These mn companies dictate the world we live in i'm afraid.

01-22-2011, 03:16 PM	#14
Flathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 1,696	Re: So sad! Toyota doesn't build anything to compete with either of those!! Or a Hemi Cuda, Cobra-jet Mustang, Buick Gran Sport, Olds 442, Pontiac GTO. All gone into history now.

01-22-2011, 04:55 PM	#15
ole_Bill Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 70	Re: So sad! The measure of a true patriot is one who has an American flag decal on his Japanese car. __________________ "I ain't no mechanic, my posts should make that obvious, I'm jus doin my best with what I got."

01-22-2011, 05:10 PM	#17
done4 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Union Pier MI Posts: 392	Re: So sad! I've been a chevy guy all of my life, because my dad was. Sadly a chevy ain't a true chevy any more. As for NAPA they sponsor a rice burner and have no loyalty to this country. Their only loyalty is to high profits.

01-22-2011, 11:11 PM	#18
Teich Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Brandon Mb Canada Posts: 133	Re: So sad! being in Canada geting parts made in "north america" would be nice, then japan, now as all have said who knows where! Owned one jap car a Mazda rotary, now it's Dodge and of course a 48 Ford. If there were more cars and parts for them built in US and Canada more people would have jobs and could buy more things made here. Just think of all the good stuff we couldget then!!! Laurie

01-23-2011, 07:36 AM	#20
sturgis 39 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lead. South Dakota Posts: 963	Re: So sad! All items manufactured in the USA carry at least a 50% tax burden. Taxes range from state and federal corporate income tax to surcharges on telephone calls. Real Estate, county, social security, business licenses, fuel taxes, unemployment taxes, work mens compensation on and on and on. These taxes make us non competitive in the world economy. I would mention Ethanol but I think one of the monitors is from Iowa and he will delete this tread. Never under estimate the power of a large group of stupid people. __________________ IF IT CAN NOT BE FIXED WITH BLASTING WIRE, JB WELD OR DUCT TAPE ---IT CAN NOT BE FIXED Do not get me started on the stupidity of ethanol. I think one of the monitors is from Iowa and he will delete the thread.