TCP paints

[Barber31]

Pearl colors are what I believe you are referring too. Pearls and candy colors are among the more expensive. Partly because the more material needed to create those paint jobs.

[Terry, NJ]

My mistake, about Ditzler. I always have believed that Ditzler supplied paint to Ford. I don't recall reading it, or someone saying it. It's one of those things you sort of believe, almost intuitively. You would know best.
Terry

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Terry, NJ

My mistake, about Ditzler. I always have believed that Ditzler supplied paint to Ford. I don't recall reading it, or someone saying it. It's one of those things you sort of believe, almost intuitively. You would know best.
Terry

I think it was the original model a paint book that was done by Ditzler. This may have been what caused the confusion.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Dog here,
Dad & I wunder about them CHEEPIE places, doin' $229.00 complete paint jobs?? They must NOT even sand the car & must mix their paint in the back room, using FOOD COLORING "Wunder" whut their WARRANTY is ? ---LOL
Buster T.

[Terry, NJ]

Hey Bill! before there was Maaco, there was Earl Scheib ! He would paint your car for$29.95. For $39.95, you could get the "Deluxe" job. "Bondowork" would raise the price even more to as much as $100. Earl had some very distinctive paint colors which were obvious to anyone that the car didn't come from the factory with that stuff on it. There is a fleet of taxis operating in Orange, NJ, that has the same color green on it. I thing Earl Scheib is out of business today so I don't where they are getting this stuff from. E.S. was the butt of a lot of jokes, but for the colors , he turned out a pretty good job. It was smooth, shiny, no orange peel and they lasted.
I saw that the guy who was on American Restorations had an old Earl Scheib sign sitting up against his wall.
Terry

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Dog here,
Dad & I wunder about them CHEEPIE places, doin' $229.00 complete paint jobs?? They must NOT even sand the car & must mix their paint in the back room, using FOOD COLORING "Wunder" whut their WARRANTY is ? ---LOL
Buster T.

[ronn]

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MAACO can do a pretty nice job for a driver-all depends what you want to pay..........

[Terry, NJ]

I don't know about Maaco, But I just discovered that Earl Scheib produced his own paint (Bill's, right about that) And in only his colors. I wonder if you could bring your own paint and have him shoot it? The blue was striking (Good) but you knew it was a Scheib job. Too shiny!
Terry

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Originally Posted by Terry, NJ

I don't know about Maaco, But I just discovered that Earl Scheib produced his own paint (Bill's, right about that) And in only his colors. I wonder if you could bring your own paint and have him shoot it? The blue was striking (Good) but you knew it was a Scheib job. Too shiny!
Terry

BUT, we like it SHINY---Otherwise, jist leave the OLD paint alone & call it "PATINA"! Some "patina" is jist CRUD, that someone wuz too LAZY to clean off. Like some "barn finds" that aren't even WASHED, before posting a pic here.
Henry Ford boiled his own paint, in his "back room", in BIG BLACK POTS
Bill Shine

[Bob C]

Earl is still around http://www.earlscheibautopainting.com/

Bob

[Terry, NJ]

Hell! When I get around to painting my coupes, I'll farm the fenders and running boards out to ole Earl for $99. We always said, take all the chrome off and do the body work and sanding yourself and just have him shoot them and you didn't get a bad job. I'm surprised, I thought it was gone. Earl Himself, died a while ago and I thought the business went with him.
Terry

[Bob C]

You have to read the fine print. To get the $99.99 paint job you have
to buy the car preparation package for $459.95.

Bob

[Mitch//pa]

I wouldn't take my bicycle to that place

[ronn]

cmon Mitch...............

you know you would!

[Terry, NJ]

Look! I went to a local body shop to get my 30 T.S. painted, Price? $5000. Five large for a half an hour of work! Naaahhhh! What's wrong with this picture? Get the prices down and I'll stop looking at other ways to do things!
Terry

[Bob C]

So you think it only takes a half hour to paint a car.

Bob

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by Bob C

So you think it only takes a half hour to paint a car.

Bob

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[Keith True]

That's pretty good pay at $5000.per pop.You won't need too many of those $80,000 days to retire.I painted my MGTD in a half hour though,all the parts were laid out,I put a couple of coats of single stage urethane on them,then stood there thinking something wasn't right because I was done in minutes.The couple hundred hours in prep doesn't count,that part comes free.

[Terry, NJ]

OK I didn't mention that because I said to the guy I would do the prep and he gave me the song and dance that his guys would have to go over it. I just wanted him to shoot it. But he hung in there with that "Rock bottom" 5 grand price. I must have sign on my forehead that says SUCKER! I look for it in the mirror, but so far, I can't see it but other's can! It seems to me that it only took a half an hour in actual time, to shoot it. But now I'm remembering that it was two tone and had to be masked. It was one half an hour for each color. Add another two hours to mask it. You, of course are correct, The half hour I used did not include the prep work or priming. So in the end, he would have taken me for 5 grand to prime the car, sand the primer, and shoot it the final colors
Not a bad couple of days pay!
Terry

Originally Posted by Keith True

That's pretty good pay at $5000.per pop.You won't need too many of those $80,000 days to retire.I painted my MGTD in a half hour though,all the parts were laid out,I put a couple of coats of single stage urethane on them,then stood there thinking something wasn't right because I was done in minutes.The couple hundred hours in prep doesn't count,that part comes free.

[Keith True]

I think the guy was just trying to chase you off.It is VERY hard,if not impossible to find a good shop to do what you want done.There is virtually nobody,except for the Maaco type places that will paint over others work and prep.The guys that I know will either give you a flat out no,or read you a telephone number for a price.I've done a lot of it,but I don't run a paint shop,and have a rep about my paintwork to maintain.I painted a cab and nose for a 47 Ford truck years ago that the owner had done the work on himself.He had no money,and did a nice job of saving this truck that came out of the scrap pile.The panels were wavy,the fudge was lumpy,some of the pop rivets were showing through the mud.People were asking him who did the paint,and he was telling them.From what I've seen from the local Maaco if you do a good job of prepping the paint can look perfect.If you have sanding scratches or dents you will end up with shiny scratches or dents.The last I knew the Maaco here only had trade school workers,good bodyman wages here are $25-$35 per hour.

[Jeff/Illinois]

Originally Posted by John Duden

i beg to differ on the fact that the paint gets cloudly over time. IF properly taken care of , washed, waxed, and not set outside implement paint holds up very good. We have tractors from the 70's that look like they were painted a year ago. AND WE USE THEM ALL SUMMER AND WINTER!
When you take care of things, things last

John you are talking about John Deere! I retired out of the E. Moline Harvester Division, and worked in D. 915 paint prep for some time. Deere buys their paint from Valspar which was just bought out by Sherwin Williams.

I can guarantee you that Deere has a continually operating lab with a chemist devoted to nothing but paint just at the Harv. Wks.
(The other facilities are similarly equipped) and we also have an experimental grounds that do very extensive tests on paint durability. Take a look at how even the first STS combines from 15 years ago still shine when cleaned up!!!!!!