The Ford Barn

Greg Jones · 02-08-2012, 09:42 PM

I should have pointed out that I too am of the young crowd, being a mere 55 years of age. Hang in there and kudos to you for saving another one!

KGBnut · 02-08-2012, 09:48 PM

Yeah, you get those guys once in a while. Personally I find that the "Jerk to Helpful Mentor" Ratio here at the Fordbarn is definitely in the favor of us newbies. I learned pretty quickly what comments to ignore.

700rpm · 02-08-2012, 09:57 PM

I am having trouble understanding your pique. This is one of the most courteous discussion sites I have ever been on. To understand how you might have somehow had a different experience, I just read ALL of your posts so far AND all the responses, and I didn't find a single answer that I thought was rude or demeaning. Certainly no one has talked down to you. And at the risk of seeming rude and demeaning, I think you are a little oversensitive. Sometimes a written answer can have an unintentional tone. Relax yourself and don't take things so personally or seriously.

5window · 02-09-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 700rpm

I am having trouble understanding your pique. This is one of the most courteous discussion sites I have ever been on. To understand how you might have somehow had a different experience, I just read ALL of your posts so far AND all the responses, and I didn't find a single answer that I thought was rude or demeaning. Certainly no one has talked down to you. And at the risk of seeming rude and demeaning, I think you are a little oversensitive. Sometimes a written answer can have an unintentional tone. Relax yourself and don't take things so personally or seriously.

Honestly!?? You've got way to much time to kill-any library can get you a much better reading list than that.

700rpm · 02-09-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 5window

Honestly!?? You've got way to much time to kill-any library can get you a much better reading list than that.

Yes, honestly. It only took about 10 minutes, and I wanted to understand his problem.

Marco Tahtaras · 02-08-2012, 10:35 PM

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Other than a few personality conflicts things are generally very smooth here. I've must say however the longer and colder winter gets the shorter the fuses get until the weather settles enough for folks to be outside!

With that said, there are a few "hot button" issues mostly due to their repetitiveness such as "what oil should I use" which surfaces at least 2-3 times a year. That would mean I've seen a new one surface about 45 times! However I began leaving that one for others to respond to about ten year ago.

I did look through several of your posts before responding here (including "oil"!) and saw some great responses and nothing that I would consider negative. Obviously I could have missed whatever struck a nerve with you.

If you choose to stick around (and I hope you do) you will find you're surrounded by a great group of folks that will do their best to be helpful as a hole. You will find some distinctive personalities that at times won't seem so "agreeable" (especially in mid winter

) but you will ether learn to understand them or ignore them!

Ghost of elmirage · 02-08-2012, 10:46 PM

I dont know as much as I would like to ,young guys cuz I have only been at this for about 35 or 36 years so bear with me, BUT I will DEFINATELY help you guys out when and if I can, Anything to keep this hobby going ya know? In the cyber world as with text messaging alot gets lost in translation so most people are not trying to be the assholes that they appear to be. Don't get me wrong this site and the HAMB has its share of douche bags but for the the most part the men and women on both sites are TOP NOTCH the D bags usually get weeded out sooner or later.The only thing the drives me up a wall is when someone uses the term RAT ROD HATE THAT FRIGGIN TERM. LOL

Tom Wesenberg · 02-09-2012, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost of elmirage

I dont know as much as I would like to ,young guys cuz I have only been at this for about 35 or 36 years so bear with me, BUT I will DEFINATELY help you guys out when and if I can, Anything to keep this hobby going ya know? In the cyber world as with text messaging alot gets lost in translation so most people are not trying to be the assholes that they appear to be. Don't get me wrong this site and the HAMB has its share of douche bags but for the the most part the men and women on both sites are TOP NOTCH the D bags usually get weeded out sooner or later.The only thing the drives me up a wall is when someone uses the term RAT ROD HATE THAT FRIGGIN TERM. LOL

If a "work of art" has all the charm and value of a dead rat, wouldn't it be appropriate to call it a rat rod?

I wonder if there is any part that could be used as a patch panel for a real Model A.

Marco Tahtaras · 02-09-2012, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

If a "work of art" has all the charm and value of a dead rat, wouldn't it be appropriate to call it a rat rod?

I wonder if there is any part that could be used as a patch panel for a real Model A.

Oh boy Tom,

You sure know how to bring back bad memories!!!

Tom Wesenberg · 02-09-2012, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Marco Tahtaras

Oh boy Tom,

You sure know how to bring back bad memories!!!

Sorry Marco, I thought you had gotten over the pain of having sold it!!

Actually, It's so hidious that I thought I got rid of the picture some time ago, but I found it in Photobucket while looking for the ammeter pictures.

dumb person · 02-09-2012, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

I wonder if there is any part that could be used as a patch panel for a real Model A.

Barely. how does one even fit inside? Is there a camera or periscope so the drive can see where they are going?

RcT · 02-08-2012, 11:17 PM

I think at one time or another, we have all taken a little bit of abuse from others, but generally speaking, this forum is far superior to any others that exist. The people are generous with their wisdom and may poke fun at one another, but are willing to share their knowledge and are a great bunch of gentlemen.

What seems to be forgotten sometimes is, I would guess, most of us simply have a two-car garage and some basic tools and that's it. Some of the "Pros" around here have full machine shops and all the equipment to do motor work, body work, painting, etc. I again guess most are on a budget and do not have the luxury of spendable cash for the hobby.

I see the point that 30ModelA is making, and being an old guy here, we do tend to mistake wisdom and knowledge and experience as license to talk down a bit. If I have ever done that to anyone, I apologize, as it was not intentional.

...and I would guess that goes for 99% of "us old guys" here.
Please, keep posting and asking. We all learn from the questions.

'lilredcoupe · 02-08-2012, 11:25 PM

As it goes, there's a few in every crowd. I'm new here as well, and have had no problems. However, I've read threads where questions are answered with crass retorts and so on. It won't take long to see who's who here.

Dusty · 02-08-2012, 11:28 PM

Young people have got to understand the reason us ole guys talk down to them is because they are young. Young full of vigor and strength, able to leap tall building in a single bound while we can barely get out of our recliners.

I know this to be the truth cause my wife is older than me and she always talks down to me

I hate young guys

dusty

al's28/33 · 02-08-2012, 11:36 PM

As with EVERYTHING in life............take it with a grain of salt. This forum and the men who voluntarily share their expertise and wisdom FREELY has been part of the reason we can all keep our "A"'s running. The experiences shared here cannot be found thru a book or other website using a search key and......SHAZAAM.......the correct answer appears before you. As with everything else in life, it comes down to give and take and trial and error. That's how the Model "A" was born!
I'm 42 and have so much more to learn, just remember everyone is different.

my 2 cents.

azmodela · 02-08-2012, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 30modelA

im 30 years old and im a rare breed

News flash, you're not that "rare"! :roll eyes:

700rpm · 02-08-2012, 11:57 PM

"6500 are you crazy, i just payed 8k for a fully restored 30 model"
and
"are you crazy you couldve bought 5 of those with that money"

Would these be examples of rude responses?

hardtimes · 02-10-2012, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 700rpm

"6500 are you crazy, i just payed 8k for a fully restored 30 model"
and
"are you crazy you couldve bought 5 of those with that money"

Would these be examples of rude responses?

Hmm, since this (like oil threads) just won't seem to go away, I, like several others here have indicated, have perused the couple dozen or so entries that you have made on this site to date.
EVIDENCE is what I looked for. Evidence that what you have stated ("rude responses") is accurate or not. Out of your written contributions....two stand out wherein you kinda indicate that someone(s) CRAZY twice! 700rpm has accurately recorded your written word above. In your second use of 'crazy'....brentin10ac responded, IMO, in kind.
If you are basing your 'rude responses' remark(S) on this one response and on YOUR participation here , thus far, IMO....you ought to reevaluate your attitude/position in this matter! The evidence DOES NOT support your position, eh!
BTW- I am a 'recovering' crazy person and have gear grease in my yellow hair that's... older than you...does that make it rare?

Lesson: It's not what you say...it's how you say it.

TD · 02-09-2012, 12:14 AM

I must say that I love this forum. I have received much good advice and help. I've received e mails,links, and illustrations as well as pass it on help from guys who just want to help. I never read into any of it and am glad to be a part of it all. I, in turn want to help back all I can. I love the banter when it squeaks in and share it with friends with smiles. It reminds me of the guys back in my old sea unit. Don't worry about the mule being blind - just load the wagon! We're all winners here.

Cool Hand Lurker · 02-09-2012, 12:23 AM

Age has nothing to do with it. I was making my same smart arse remarks 60 years ago!

02-08-2012, 09:42 PM	#1
Greg Jones Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Aiken, South Carolina Posts: 698	Re: people answering questions I should have pointed out that I too am of the young crowd, being a mere 55 years of age. Hang in there and kudos to you for saving another one!

02-08-2012, 09:48 PM	#2
KGBnut Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Southwestern Connecticut Posts: 934	Re: people answering questions Yeah, you get those guys once in a while. Personally I find that the "Jerk to Helpful Mentor" Ratio here at the Fordbarn is definitely in the favor of us newbies. I learned pretty quickly what comments to ignore. __________________ Style beats speed any day, and with a lot fewer tickets.

02-08-2012, 09:57 PM	#3
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 6,039	Re: people answering questions I am having trouble understanding your pique. This is one of the most courteous discussion sites I have ever been on. To understand how you might have somehow had a different experience, I just read ALL of your posts so far AND all the responses, and I didn't find a single answer that I thought was rude or demeaning. Certainly no one has talked down to you. And at the risk of seeming rude and demeaning, I think you are a little oversensitive. Sometimes a written answer can have an unintentional tone. Relax yourself and don't take things so personally or seriously. __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

02-08-2012, 10:35 PM	#6
Marco Tahtaras Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,099	Re: people answering questions Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Other than a few personality conflicts things are generally very smooth here. I've must say however the longer and colder winter gets the shorter the fuses get until the weather settles enough for folks to be outside! With that said, there are a few "hot button" issues mostly due to their repetitiveness such as "what oil should I use" which surfaces at least 2-3 times a year. That would mean I've seen a new one surface about 45 times! However I began leaving that one for others to respond to about ten year ago. I did look through several of your posts before responding here (including "oil"!) and saw some great responses and nothing that I would consider negative. Obviously I could have missed whatever struck a nerve with you. If you choose to stick around (and I hope you do) you will find you're surrounded by a great group of folks that will do their best to be helpful as a hole. You will find some distinctive personalities that at times won't seem so "agreeable" (especially in mid winter ) but you will ether learn to understand them or ignore them! __________________ http://www.abarnyard.com/

02-08-2012, 10:46 PM	#7
Ghost of elmirage Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Worcester , Mass Posts: 300	Re: people answering questions I dont know as much as I would like to ,young guys cuz I have only been at this for about 35 or 36 years so bear with me, BUT I will DEFINATELY help you guys out when and if I can, Anything to keep this hobby going ya know? In the cyber world as with text messaging alot gets lost in translation so most people are not trying to be the assholes that they appear to be. Don't get me wrong this site and the HAMB has its share of douche bags but for the the most part the men and women on both sites are TOP NOTCH the D bags usually get weeded out sooner or later.The only thing the drives me up a wall is when someone uses the term RAT ROD HATE THAT FRIGGIN TERM. LOL __________________ [email protected]

02-08-2012, 11:17 PM	#12
RcT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 451	Re: people answering questions I think at one time or another, we have all taken a little bit of abuse from others, but generally speaking, this forum is far superior to any others that exist. The people are generous with their wisdom and may poke fun at one another, but are willing to share their knowledge and are a great bunch of gentlemen. What seems to be forgotten sometimes is, I would guess, most of us simply have a two-car garage and some basic tools and that's it. Some of the "Pros" around here have full machine shops and all the equipment to do motor work, body work, painting, etc. I again guess most are on a budget and do not have the luxury of spendable cash for the hobby. I see the point that 30ModelA is making, and being an old guy here, we do tend to mistake wisdom and knowledge and experience as license to talk down a bit. If I have ever done that to anyone, I apologize, as it was not intentional. ...and I would guess that goes for 99% of "us old guys" here. Please, keep posting and asking. We all learn from the questions.

02-08-2012, 11:25 PM	#13
'lilredcoupe Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cazenovia, NY Posts: 56	Re: people answering questions As it goes, there's a few in every crowd. I'm new here as well, and have had no problems. However, I've read threads where questions are answered with crass retorts and so on. It won't take long to see who's who here. __________________ Rob Kellogg Cazenovia, NY

02-08-2012, 11:28 PM	#14
Dusty Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lincolnton, Georgia Posts: 723	Re: people answering questions Young people have got to understand the reason us ole guys talk down to them is because they are young. Young full of vigor and strength, able to leap tall building in a single bound while we can barely get out of our recliners. I know this to be the truth cause my wife is older than me and she always talks down to me I hate young guys dusty

02-08-2012, 11:36 PM	#15
al's28/33 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Redwood City, CA Posts: 1,723	Re: people answering questions As with EVERYTHING in life............take it with a grain of salt. This forum and the men who voluntarily share their expertise and wisdom FREELY has been part of the reason we can all keep our "A"'s running. The experiences shared here cannot be found thru a book or other website using a search key and......SHAZAAM.......the correct answer appears before you. As with everything else in life, it comes down to give and take and trial and error. That's how the Model "A" was born! I'm 42 and have so much more to learn, just remember everyone is different. my 2 cents.

02-08-2012, 11:57 PM	#17
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 6,039	Re: people answering questions *"6500 are you crazy, i just payed 8k for a fully restored 30 model"* and *"are you crazy you couldve bought 5 of those with that money"* Would these be examples of rude responses? __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

02-09-2012, 12:14 AM	#19
TD Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: shelby, nc Posts: 201	Re: people answering questions I must say that I love this forum. I have received much good advice and help. I've received e mails,links, and illustrations as well as pass it on help from guys who just want to help. I never read into any of it and am glad to be a part of it all. I, in turn want to help back all I can. I love the banter when it squeaks in and share it with friends with smiles. It reminds me of the guys back in my old sea unit. Don't worry about the mule being blind - just load the wagon! We're all winners here.

02-09-2012, 12:23 AM	#20
Cool Hand Lurker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Minn Posts: 1,583	Re: people answering questions Age has nothing to do with it. I was making my same smart arse remarks 60 years ago!