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Forty-wuns foever · 08-05-2011, 06:24 PM

Would the bowl vent make a difference. I know one would leak into the carb and the other would leak outside if the float stuck or there was some percolation.

ken ct · 08-05-2011, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Milt K from Pa

Ken CT,
Why does setting the points out of the distrib change when mounted in the distrib?? I use a KRWilson distrib fixture to finalize the timing and never find it off that much after normal .015 settings. Just need to know.
Milt K from Pa

Thats not what i said,read it again. How can you set points out of the dist???????. I said the coil must be on the dist when you set points. ken ct.

ken ct · 08-05-2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Newc

Hi all; Remember an earlier post about 94 bowl vents being different for top fan engines and crankshaft fan engines. 39-41 low fan eng use an external bowl vent? right? later Newc

NO 39-41 carbs have no vent tube in the top section. ken ct.

koates · 08-05-2011, 10:49 PM

WOW ! some of you guys make an old ford V8 ignition sound complicated. Im an older (not old) retired auto electrician and own a stock origional 1934 four door and it runs an 8volt battery system which has been in it for over 5 years. last set of distributer points have been 4 years. It has an original stock ford coil (not rewound). I once fitted a 6volt battery in it to do voltage and current comparison readings on the ignition system. Coil current draw was only about 5% higher on 8 volts using the standard ford resistor under the dash. Cranks over fast and starts instantly from cold,(Bonney & Clyde would be impressed). Lights are all standard bulbs and are very good. Only blown one stop light in 5 years. Generator will handle 8 volts easily. Just set the third brush up on generator to charge a max of around 6 amps total (ignition will pull about 3 amps of this) leaving 3 amps into battery for daylight running. DONT DITCH THAT 8 VOLT BATTERY. My car also ran fine with the 6 volt in it but the 8 volt was in it when I bought the car. Spark is bright blue even with resistor plug ends which are there to stop ignition noise in the origional glove box radio. Runs great even on 90 +++ degree day. I must have a good one !!!!

rotorwrench · 08-06-2011, 09:18 AM

I don't know about complicated. 6-Volts worked just fine until the 8-volt systems were developed for GPWs. If your starter doesn't turn over well, its likely the starter needs overhaul or a crusty cable or terminal connection somewhere.

If more voltage is needed, go with 12-volt. At least modern electronics are compatible with that. 6-volt gauges and radios last longer on there intended design voltages. A 34 Ford with a 3-brush generator is less suseptibel to probelms than the later cars with voltage regulated 2-brush generators, multiple heated element gauges, and radios with weak vibrators.

Kerby

koates · 08-07-2011, 09:25 AM

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I didnt say old ford ignition systems were complicated (they are not) just some guys make them out to be so. On a 6 volt two brush generator and voltage regulator running on an 8 volt system the voltage regulator and cut out settings would need to be adjusted to suit by some one who knows what they are doing, ie an auto electrician, and an older one at that. The young fellas did not learn about this older equipment. The current regulator could remain at the origional setting to match the generator but should be checked anyway. If these are not adjusted for the 8 volt battery it will not be charged correctly and will soon go flat. Regards, Kevin.

08-05-2011, 06:24 PM	#21
Forty-wuns foever Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 14	Re: 41 flatty, miserable, spark, stops running. Would the bowl vent make a difference. I know one would leak into the carb and the other would leak outside if the float stuck or there was some percolation.

08-05-2011, 10:49 PM	#24
koates Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Melbourne Australia. Posts: 2,218	Re: 41 flatty, miserable, spark, stops running. WOW ! some of you guys make an old ford V8 ignition sound complicated. Im an older (not old) retired auto electrician and own a stock origional 1934 four door and it runs an 8volt battery system which has been in it for over 5 years. last set of distributer points have been 4 years. It has an original stock ford coil (not rewound). I once fitted a 6volt battery in it to do voltage and current comparison readings on the ignition system. Coil current draw was only about 5% higher on 8 volts using the standard ford resistor under the dash. Cranks over fast and starts instantly from cold,(Bonney & Clyde would be impressed). Lights are all standard bulbs and are very good. Only blown one stop light in 5 years. Generator will handle 8 volts easily. Just set the third brush up on generator to charge a max of around 6 amps total (ignition will pull about 3 amps of this) leaving 3 amps into battery for daylight running. DONT DITCH THAT 8 VOLT BATTERY. My car also ran fine with the 6 volt in it but the 8 volt was in it when I bought the car. Spark is bright blue even with resistor plug ends which are there to stop ignition noise in the origional glove box radio. Runs great even on 90 +++ degree day. I must have a good one !!!!

08-06-2011, 09:18 AM	#25
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 18,006	Re: 41 flatty, miserable, spark, stops running. I don't know about complicated. 6-Volts worked just fine until the 8-volt systems were developed for GPWs. If your starter doesn't turn over well, its likely the starter needs overhaul or a crusty cable or terminal connection somewhere. If more voltage is needed, go with 12-volt. At least modern electronics are compatible with that. 6-volt gauges and radios last longer on there intended design voltages. A 34 Ford with a 3-brush generator is less suseptibel to probelms than the later cars with voltage regulated 2-brush generators, multiple heated element gauges, and radios with weak vibrators. Kerby Last edited by rotorwrench; 08-06-2011 at 10:32 AM. Reason: added info

08-07-2011, 09:25 AM	#26
koates Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Melbourne Australia. Posts: 2,218	Re: 41 flatty, miserable, spark, stops running. Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I didnt say old ford ignition systems were complicated (they are not) just some guys make them out to be so. On a 6 volt two brush generator and voltage regulator running on an 8 volt system the voltage regulator and cut out settings would need to be adjusted to suit by some one who knows what they are doing, ie an auto electrician, and an older one at that. The young fellas did not learn about this older equipment. The current regulator could remain at the origional setting to match the generator but should be checked anyway. If these are not adjusted for the 8 volt battery it will not be charged correctly and will soon go flat. Regards, Kevin.