Ethanol gas

[KiWinUS]

I run Ethanol gas in my stock 36 for , drive her all over & never a problem ! Atleast not in the last 8 years .
Cheers
Tony

[Tim Ayers]

You can also use a product called Star Tron by Star Brite. It is a enyzme that counteracts the effects that ethanol-based gas creates.

Way better than Sta-Bil. In fact, I've used it to restore stale gas. I was amazed how well it worked.

Here is the link to the company. I am in no way associated with them, just use the product and know a bunch of others who do as well.

http://mystarbrite.com/startron/

[1952henry]

Originally Posted by dwkahler

hi to all,my name is don.
i own a 1953 ford f 500 truck,with the flat head v8.
i recently changed the fuel pump,and replaced the fuel filter with
a filter that i got off the shelf. i changed the oil,after changeing the fuel pump,as this was recommended per fuel pump instructions.
i thought i made a good fix,however it began to run very ruff a short time later. it was my thinking that a good tune up,and new carb would fix this situation.i believe that gas is somehow leaking into the crank case,as i can smell it from the dip stick.what is causeing this? is it the off the shelf fuel filter? i am now wondering if this motor needs a compleate rebuild?
thankyou for any advise.
don

In addition to Daytona, Charlie NY on this site has quality parts.

[paul2748]

We have had 10 % ethanol around here a long time. I have run one car on it ever since it came in (302 Ford). The other cars I have I also used it, including two trips from NJ to the West Coast in my stock 56 TBird and have never experienced any fuel component problems with it. Cars are used extensively.

I think a lot of people are making a mountain out of a molehill. Just change the parts that may have problems with ones that are ok for the ethanol. It's probably going to be a long time before the ethanol situation changes, if it ever does. We have to deal with it.

I thought the lead issue had died a long time ago. As long as you are not using the car extensively you don't need an additive and if you do, get hardened exhaust valve seats.

[barnfind]

StaBil Blue Marine Grade seems to work pretty good for long term storage protection.
I spent over $2000 on new carbs, injectors, and fuel pumps in one year for multiple vehicles due to the eCRAP gas. Next door neighbor had the same experience at the same time with his fleet.

In a Red state, $2000 is considered a little bit more than molehill.

[46woodie]

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Your right, this site has so many drama queens it's just hysterical to read the threads. Been using E10 for 10-15 years in bikes, lawn mowers, new cars and the old cars with no problem. Hell, if it was that big of a problem there would be a towing company on every corner.

[Ross F-1]

Originally Posted by barnfind

StaBil Blue Marine Grade seems to work pretty good for long term storage protection.
I spent over $2000 on new carbs, injectors, and fuel pumps in one year for multiple vehicles due to the eCRAP gas. Next door neighbor had the same experience at the same time with his fleet.

In a Red state, $2000 is considered a little bit more than molehill.

I'd be curious which "red state" you're in? I think based on what seem to be clusters of problems like yours, that local fuel distributors may be the cause of some problems. They may be adding more than the stated 10% ethanol, especially when gas prices go up. Or maybe their quality control sucks. There are 3 major refineries serving my area, and one has a history of contaminated fuel, the last one disabling almost a thousand cars in 3 days.

[Tim Ayers]

Originally Posted by 46woodie

Your right, this site has so many drama queens it's just hysterical to read the threads. Been using E10 for 10-15 years in bikes, lawn mowers, new cars and the old cars with no problem. Hell, if it was that big of a problem there would be a towing company on every corner.

It really is a problem if the gas sits. If it used up and is somewhat fresh, there shouldn't be too many issues.

For an old car, sitting in a tank for over 6 months or so it does start to create problems. This is fact and not drama.

[46woodie]

Why would your car sit for 6 months? They're automobiles, meant to be driven unless you have a museum. ANY fuel will give you problems if it just sits in the system for 6 months. Gas it up, drive it and quit whining

[Todd'sflathead]

Adding ethanol to gas is like watering down your beer when you buy a gallon of gas you want a gallon of gas.

[46woodie]

Todd, it's obvious why they call you "flathead". You are not watering gasoline down by adding ethanol. Don't believe me, try putting a match to a glass of water. Now try this same thing to a glass of ethanol. Geeeeesh!

[46woodie]

I hear ya! Been using E10 for years in mowers, snow blowers, old cars, new cars, motorcycles, never had fuel problems. These guys are confusing other problems with "alcohol gas" phobia.

[Tim Ayers]

Originally Posted by 46woodie

Why would your car sit for 6 months? They're automobiles, meant to be driven unless you have a museum. ANY fuel will give you problems if it just sits in the system for 6 months. Gas it up, drive it and quit whining

No one is whining. At least in NJ, I wouldn't take a restored car out in the winter since they salt roads so heavily.

Fellas, it seems like people's emotions are getting in the way of the facts in this thread.

To each his own I guess.

[GOSFAST]

Here in N.Y. we have a 10% mix and have never had a single "fuel" issue with any builds we've done. The Flathead Merc in my signature has been running on it for a while now with no adverse effects, over 12,000 trouble-free miles on conventional pump-gas.

This also includes as well all the other mfr's we get to do. All the N.Y. "streeters" here run basically on the same fuel!

Seems the ethanol, corn-based fuel, doesn't react like methanol and other alcohol related fuels, with the rubber content.

Thanks, Gary in N.Y.

P.S. You can do a very simple test with any fuel by putting a short section of rubber hose in an inch of fuel in a metal coffee can and watch for a reaction. I have a conventional piece of rubber fuel line "soaking" in some straight E-85, this 85% ethanol, for a few weeks now with no change whatsoever.

[Mike51Merc]

Ethanol may not be the best thing for rubber parts, but it's not like they just invented it to mess up old cars.

I've been running E10 for years with no problems. I just make sure I stabilize it if the vehicle is going to sit for more than a month or so.

[46woodie]

Mike, love your 51!!

[FL&WVMIKE]

Ethonol IS "watering down" the gasoline. Alcohol does not have the energy stored, by volumn, as Gasoline. Ask any Chemistry student.
MIKE

[Mike51Merc]

Originally Posted by FL&WVMIKE

Ethonol IS "watering down" the gasoline. Alcohol does not have the energy stored, by volumn, as Gasoline. Ask any Chemistry student.
MIKE

This is true, plus alcohol soaks up water, making it even more watered-down.

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[JeffB2]

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