White Walls (Just a question not trying to start a debate)

[DougVieyra]

I think you folks are missing the question!

With the subject of White-Wall TIRES already having been discussed ad nauseum, Hoogah is doing what his wife asked him to do . . . .

"O.K. boozo, if you think pink is the color we ought to paint the living room walls . . . go online and ask your Model A buddies their opinion of what the color of our living room should be. The pink that you want, or the white walls that I want !"

[robgross1930]

With the exception of a few Model A’s, white walls have always looked out of place on a Model A in my opinion. I especially dislike them when the color of the wheel is not far from white, e.g., straw or crème colored wheels. Looks odd in my opinion.

At the same time, I don't like any wheel/tire combination that causes people to focus on them instead of the car, e.g., black wheels and white walls look like white rings rolling down the road. Reminds me of an old steam locomotive rather than a car.

[C26Pinelake]

Everybody loves them but not everyone can afford them! It's often been said that the ones that don't like them are the ones that can't afford them. Wayne

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Two Guys lived in an apartment for a LOOOONG time.----"We've soiled this place, may we repaint it before we leave?----OH, that's so NICE of you"!!!-----
They painted it BLACK!!!
Bill W.

[H. L. Chauvin]

Humble Opinion on Whitewalls:

A. Lots depends on "who" one is trying to impress with whitewalls.

B. With magazine(s) or actual photos of Model A's, with different tires, ask several individuals which do they prefer; for example,

1. Ask both young and senior females; and,

2. Ask both young and senior men.

3. Finally, ask your wife ..... she is in charge .... so do the answers in 1. & 2. above matter?

C. Please let us know what you decide to buy .... thousands of ears are anxiously waiting for one or several individual's "correct" answer.

[Hoogah]

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C. Please let us know what you decide to buy .... thousands of ears are anxiously waiting for one or several individual's "correct" answer.

Well, I was just being mischievous by asking the "innocent" question really. I even used the same set of words found in the title of another current thread that went the same way. Only a couple of guys got it - Todd3131 and Doug V. But that's OK, it's an issue that obviously needs LOTS of discussion.

So, I'm not in the market. I inherited the WWs that are on my original E28 Phaeton when I bought it, and they're still in good knick. I don't mind them. I think they're kind of cheeky/pretentious!

Now let's get back to the opinions!

[C26Pinelake]

Originally Posted by Hoogah

Well, I was just being mischievous by asking the "innocent" question really. I even used the same set of words found in the title of another current thread that went the same way. Only a couple of guys got it - Todd3131 and Doug V. But that's OK, it's an issue that obviously needs LOTS of discussion.

So, I'm not in the market. I inherited the WWs that are on my original E28 Phaeton when I bought it, and they're still in good knick. I don't mind them. I think they're kind of cheeky/pretentious!

Now let's get back to the opinions!

You waste everyone's time!

[todd3131]

Originally Posted by Hoogah

Well, I was just being mischievous by asking the "innocent" question really. I even used the same set of words found in the title of another current thread that went the same way. Only a couple of guys got it - Todd3131 and Doug V. But that's OK, it's an issue that obviously needs LOTS of discussion.

So, I'm not in the market. I inherited the WWs that are on my original E28 Phaeton when I bought it, and they're still in good knick. I don't mind them. I think they're kind of cheeky/pretentious!

Now let's get back to the opinions!

Posting the words white walls on this blog is like yelling Frau Blucher in Young Frankenstein, the horse get unsettled at the sound.

[DougVieyra]

Of course you can always seek public opinion -
doing a 'Survey' in the Mall Parking Lot.

Here is how to do it :

- four tires to be mounted - two black walls and two whitewalls
- Passenger side: Whitewall on front wheel, Blackwall on Rear wheel.
- Driver's side: Blackwall on front wheel, Whitewall on Rear wheel.
- Drive to a large Mall and park in the parking lot, close to a main entrance.
- Have a Box Lunch, chips, drink, and a good book or Lap Top Computer.
- Have a "Score Sheet" (Survey) with ink pen handy.
- As you engage in the many conversations you will inevitably have through out the day, invite the passer-bys & admirers to give their opinions on your 'census' sheet.
- When the Sun sets, and both your sandwich and your 'flock' has flown, crank up your flivver (I know it has a starter - but you may have an audience who have expectations) and return home to your 'Man Cave'.
- In your privacy, do the tally. If you like the results - and it agrees with your choice, then you can take it to your wife to show that the public supports you. If the results are NOT what you like, and IS what you wife likes - burn the paper !

And go inside and help your wife paint the Living Room WHITE !

[DougVieyra]

If you enjoyed your time at the Mall parking lot, you can repeat the experience the following weekend. Only this time have both of the whitewall tires on the same side, both blackwall tires on the opposite side. It might make for a 'purer' test result.

And for interesting and informative reading, you can bring the NEW edition of the MARC/MAFCA Restoration Guidelines & Judging Standards !

[todd3131]

Originally Posted by H. L. Chauvin

Humble Opinion on Whitewalls:

A. Lots depends on "who" one is trying to impress with whitewalls.

B. With magazine(s) or actual photos of Model A's, with different tires, ask several individuals which do they prefer; for example,

1. Ask both young and senior females; and,

2. Ask both young and senior men.

3. Finally, ask your wife ..... she is in charge .... so do the answers in 1. & 2. above matter?

C. Please let us know what you decide to buy .... thousands of ears are anxiously waiting for one or several individual's "correct" answer.

I think the correct answer your looking for is to be happy with himself and not anyone else.
Or it is up to the owner

[DougVieyra]

Hoogah, post #45:
"Hilarious. I only started this thread as a joke, expecting that no-one would really reply, but just grimace! We've reached 45 posts, almost enough for a fence!"
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Just as I suspected. I almost mention as such on my last post , but thought better of it. Like you, I wanted to see just how far this rabid dog would run. This WhiteWall Dog does have amazing resilience! Guess it just goes to show the passion we all have about our cars. And for some, our home's white walls.

[Tom Wesenberg]

The whitewall argument has given me such a headache that I can't think straight.
Now I need to take two whitewalls and go rest for a few hours.

[California Travieso]

In the '50's my 48 Ford Coupe and my 1957 Chevy two-door both had whitewall tires because most American cars had WW's then, especially the wide ones.

When the imported sports cars came in in the 50's and 60's they all had BW's because they wanted to identify with rally and road racing cars. In the early 50's the 6 cylinder Corvettes and 50's T-Birds had WW's. By the 60's the muscle cars and imported cars all had BW's because they wanted to identify with track cars, e.g., drag racers and road racers. Even my 40 HP VW had BW's.

its pretty hard to find WW's on modern cars, my BMW and my wife's Lexus both have BW's, they would look odd with WW's.

WW's are pretty much reserved for classic and antique cars like my wife's 29 Roadster, although, when we buy new tires for the Roadster, we'll probably by BW's.

David Serrano

[ed thibodeau]

I have them on my tudor. I don't like them but my wife does, enough said.

[JBill]

I'd guess that the majority of the people participating on this board, not all, probably grew up in an era when most sporty cars had white walls (late forties, fifties, sixties). If we had a car that didn't, we either painted them on or added those rubber deals that fit under the edge of the rim. Younger people have grown up with cars that never had black walls, so they have a different idea of what a car should look like, or what is "cool."

[DougVieyra]

JBill - " If we had a car that didn't, we either painted them on or added those [white] rubber deals that fit under the edge of the rim."
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Bill is talking about - "Port-A-Walls" ? I still have a NOS set of four - never got around to mounting them on the tires/wheels.

[Brace Bailey]

I have another reason to go White Walls.

The Wife factor has been pretty well established- and mine really wanted
White Walls on my 61 Corvette I was building. Problem is... big brakes and
C4 suspension required 17" wheels, and narrow sidewall / wide tires just don't seem to have 2" white walls any more.

So... Next project was a 1930 Pick up. I promised it would be all original, and
When I got a deal on a set of 5 Firestone WWs... I was all set.
Then I picked up a very nice set of welled front fenders.
So.. what the heck... now I have six White Walls.

[C26Pinelake]

I don't remember ever being at a car show where a people's choice award was given to a car with black walls. Wayne

[jm29henry]

I love my white walls but it does take time to keeping clean and bright