English Ford Model Y

[Flat Ernie]

Originally Posted by corvette8n

I think a V8-60 would look great under the hood.

Originally Posted by scooder

In my opinion, if you look at a Model Y and don't think about sliding a V8 60 there be something wrong with you!
This may happen to Blues (wife) Y, I haven't ruled it out. I don't have a 60 here, but do have an ongoing option on one. But the gearbox (transmission) is the hurdle financially. It would have a narrowed Model A axle (got) if it happened. The problem with early Ford gearboxes is, in the last few years become made out of solid gold pricewise, in the uk.
Martin.

Originally Posted by feelsharp

For a tranny use a T5 available a reasonable cost and offers 5 speed with 5th OD. Bell adaptors are available for T5 to V8 60 engines.

The challenge with the V8-60 is steering. The current location of the steering column as it exists the firewall is smack dab in the head of the V860. It's not an insurmountable job and if you were converting to LHD, it would have to be fiddled with anyway. This may be one application where those offset chain re-drives might work well.

I've done a great deal of "tape measure engineering" on this conversion as I've owned two of these great little cars - I brought the second one home with me. It is a '37, runs and drives and is one of my long-term projects.

There is a good thread on the HAMB that isn't currently active, but a search should turn it up easily enough. Lots of info.

My plans for the V860 were to use an 103-type front axle that puts the axle behind the spring and move the front crossmember forward about 3-4". There is room in the radiator shell to move the radiator forward nearly the same amount (whether or not you can cool a 60 with that small radiator remains to be seen).

The firewall & footwell will require some surgery and installing the T5 will require frame rework. The only wrinkle here? The body is rivited to the frame and while it can be relatively easily unrivited and then bolted on later, it is yet another small niggly bit that must be sorted.

For me, the real challenge was the front and rear axles. The front axle was a straightforward solution in my eyes. I was going to have a custom width tube axle fabricated that took early Ford kingpins and most likely use F1/F100 front brakes.

Out back was another story entirely. The Y is so petit and tiny that there really isn't an acceptable swap that goes in without looking complete out of place. And getting the early bolt ford 5x5.5 bolt pattern onto anything that might fit (small import) is near impossible. I was originally looking at modifying later popular open drive stuff - mixing and matching 103/105 and other bits. But I never did figure it completely out.

There was one interesting option. If you could use two short-side E83W axle housings and axles, you could machine the internals to take Model-A guts (in theory - I never actually did it - but it measured out about right) and center banjo section. You would end up with an axle that was quite short and took the early British Ford ends (or whatever ends you wanted to make work). E83W are scarce enough as it is and while I didn't search super hard for these axle housings, I did always sort of have my eye open for them while living in the UK.

Originally Posted by Tony Bullard

Here's some model identification: http://www.fordyandcmodelregister.co...ification.html

There's also a good book on it:

http://www.amazon.com/Ford-Model-Hen.../dp/1901295885


I will eventually put a V8-60 into my Y, but it's a long term project on the back burner.

Here's a pic of mine.

[KiWinUS]

Speedway engineering in LA has a small quickchange that they will make what ever width you want , that will give you the bolt pattern you want also & rear discs & the features of a Q/C rear axle.
Cheers
Tony

Originally Posted by Flat Ernie

The challenge with the V8-60 is steering. The current location of the steering column as it exists the firewall is smack dab in the head of the V860. It's not an insurmountable job and if you were converting to LHD, it would have to be fiddled with anyway. This may be one application where those offset chain re-drives might work well.

I've done a great deal of "tape measure engineering" on this conversion as I've owned two of these great little cars - I brought the second one home with me. It is a '37, runs and drives and is one of my long-term projects.

There is a good thread on the HAMB that isn't currently active, but a search should turn it up easily enough. Lots of info.

My plans for the V860 were to use an 103-type front axle that puts the axle behind the spring and move the front crossmember forward about 3-4". There is room in the radiator shell to move the radiator forward nearly the same amount (whether or not you can cool a 60 with that small radiator remains to be seen).

The firewall & footwell will require some surgery and installing the T5 will require frame rework. The only wrinkle here? The body is rivited to the frame and while it can be relatively easily unrivited and then bolted on later, it is yet another small niggly bit that must be sorted.

For me, the real challenge was the front and rear axles. The front axle was a straightforward solution in my eyes. I was going to have a custom width tube axle fabricated that took early Ford kingpins and most likely use F1/F100 front brakes.

Out back was another story entirely. The Y is so petit and tiny that there really isn't an acceptable swap that goes in without looking complete out of place. And getting the early bolt ford 5x5.5 bolt pattern onto anything that might fit (small import) is near impossible. I was originally looking at modifying later popular open drive stuff - mixing and matching 103/105 and other bits. But I never did figure it completely out.

There was one interesting option. If you could use two short-side E83W axle housings and axles, you could machine the internals to take Model-A guts (in theory - I never actually did it - but it measured out about right) and center banjo section. You would end up with an axle that was quite short and took the early British Ford ends (or whatever ends you wanted to make work). E83W are scarce enough as it is and while I didn't search super hard for these axle housings, I did always sort of have my eye open for them while living in the UK.



There's also a good book on it:

http://www.amazon.com/Ford-Model-Hen.../dp/1901295885


I will eventually put a V8-60 into my Y, but it's a long term project on the back burner.

Here's a pic of mine.

[Flat Ernie]

Originally Posted by KiWinUS

Speedway engineering in LA has a small quickchange that they will make what ever width you want , that will give you the bolt pattern you want also & rear discs & the features of a Q/C rear axle.
Cheers
Tony

Interesting

http://www.1speedway.com/Rear_End_Measurement_Page.htm