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Old 06-04-2019, 12:25 AM   #1
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Thank you all, I do everything over the phone as I live in Alaska. He still won't answer my calls or texts. I will try each of your suggestions. I may even fly down there. I have kind of a temper when people try to rip me off . I'm not sure a face to face will go well.
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Old 06-04-2019, 10:25 AM   #2
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Thank you all, I do everything over the phone as I live in Alaska. He still won't answer my calls or texts. I will try each of your suggestions. I may even fly down there. I have kind of a temper when people try to rip me off . I'm not sure a face to face will go well.

First, I would call the Grants Pass police department and file a charge against him OR at least talk to a detective to see what he suggest. I got scammed years ago on a Pines Winterfront grill. ME and another fellow ended up calling the local sheriff and his investigator could not "officially" charge him (because of the value...$600) BUT through a couple visits and "implied" actions (it took about a month or so) he got two money orders from him for almost all our money back!!!! IF you can get a few others who have suffer the same fate, that helps!!!! PLUS...that much value across state lines "Could" constitute "Federal" charges and interest from larger authority!!!

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First, I would call the Grants Pass police department and file a charge against him OR at least talk to a detective to see what he suggest. I got scammed years ago on a Pines Winterfront grill. ME and another fellow ended up calling the local sheriff and his investigator could not "officially" charge him (because of the value...$600) BUT through a couple visits and "implied" actions (it took about a month or so) he got two money orders from him for almost all our money back!!!! IF you can get a few others who have suffer the same fate, that helps!!!! PLUS...that much value across state lines "Could" constitute "Federal" charges and interest from larger authority!!!
Gary Howard...hmm..where have I heard this name before?
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Old 07-28-2019, 08:44 PM   #4
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Contact the Secretary of States office, Fraud division. I did this when a Oregon vendor sent the wrong parts and wouldn't refund my money or send me a shipping ticket for a return. The SOS's office got my money back.
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Old 08-05-2019, 12:37 PM   #5
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Anybody get an engine yet?

Mine should be done soon.

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Old 08-06-2019, 12:23 PM   #6
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I too, have fallen victim to this guy to the tune of just over $7000. I have tried all sorts of Government agencies, BBB, DOJ and Atty General. Everyone seems to think that this is a civil matter between customer and provider. The DOJ got some movement but as all of you know this guy is full of S**t and probably never deliver. My question is, there was one person listed in the BBB complaint section that resolved his issue with Flathead City. Does anyone here happen to know who this person is? If so I would like to talk to him and find out what he did. I have hired an Attorney in Grants Pass OR. and am about ready to spend all it takes to get this guy either locked up or in a legal bind. The problem now is I would never trust a motor that this guy delivers, if anyone knows a person who was successful in beating this crook please let me know
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Old 08-06-2019, 12:35 PM   #7
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I have hired an Attorney in Grants Pass OR. and am about ready to spend all it takes to get this guy either locked up or in a legal bind.
Good for you!! I wish you the best of luck. It seems like he actually was delivering a product at one time. He probably has spent all the money he honestly earned and scammed people out of.
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Don't know all the facts but on initial review sounds like substance abuse. JMO
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This guy should be in jail!!!!!
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