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Old 12-29-2017, 09:43 PM   #1
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KULTLZ,

Thank you for the '59 model numbers.

When I looked closely at the picture of the blue '60 Courier that you posted in post #80, I could see there didn't appear to be a 2nd row seat, and also it appeared the front seat was only on the driver's side. I realize these are actuall artist drawings and not photos, but still usually accurate.

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KULTLZ,

Thank you for the '59 model numbers.

When I looked closely at the picture of the blue '60 Courier that you posted in post #80, I could see there didn't appear to be a 2nd row seat, and also it appeared the front seat was only on the driver's side. I realize these are actuall artist drawings and not photos, but still usually accurate.

Sal
You have a good eye for detail. I guess that is why you are a carb specialist...

I went back into the period MPC and the 1960 FORD Courier (59E - only) shows two separate seats as opposed to the regular one piece tilt forward back bench seat.

I would a$$-u-me that the passenger side folds down. Not sure as that detail is not mentioned. Maybe a Shop, Owners and/or Assembly Manual of that year would give more detail.

See Ill below.
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- http://www.dailyturismo.com/2017/06/...d-courier.html

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According to the seller "this wagon was call a courier for it came with no back seat and hard to fine." The Courier was a Sedan Delivery version that skipped back seats and instead gave you more room to haul your junk.
I may find myself corrected (again).

The folding rear seat MPC Ill only refers to Body Type 59. It does not actually infer either 59C and/or 59E.



I need a 60 Shop Manual...
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Here is an enlarged picture from the Ford Car Parts Manual Posted by KULTULZ. At the bottom, you will see the Body Code Number 59E, which is the Code Number for the 1960 Ford Courier (Sedan Delivery).
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From this Chart, you will see that the 1960 Ford Courier is actually referred to as a 2 dr Commercial Ranch Wagon, Body Code 59E. The regular 2 dr Ranch Wagon is Body Code 59C. All very interesting.
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From this Chart, you will see that the 1960 Ford Courier is actually referred to as a 2 dr Commercial Ranch Wagon, Body Code 59E. The regular 2 dr Ranch Wagon is Body Code 59C. All very interesting.
The 59C and 59E Body Codes applied to both the 1960 and the 1961 FORD 2DR Wagons.
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I know that Ford produced a Ford Falcon Sedan Delivery in 1961. Did they also produce a "full-size" 1961 Ford Courier? The attached picture is too small to enlarge.
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Here is a larger picture of the 1961 Ford Falcon Sedan Delivery from the Sales brochure. It is not the best quality as it started out as a small picture.
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I know that Ford produced a Ford Falcon Sedan Delivery in 1961. Did they also produce a "full-size" 1961 Ford Courier?
Yes. It was the continuation of the 1960 Courier. Both with side glass.



The Ill does not show the badging (RANCH WAGON - COURIER) well, so I cropped it below.

The badging was moved to the rear gate for 1961.

I had a good photo but cannot find it...

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FOUND IT!

Just a side shot and not identified as either a RANCH WAGON or COURIER, but they both looked the same...
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Old 12-31-2017, 07:54 PM   #10
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[QUOTE=scicala;1572365]When I looked closely at the picture of the blue '60 Courier that you posted in post #80, I could see there didn't appear to be a 2nd row seat, and also it appeared the front seat was only on the driver's side. I realize these are actuall artist drawings and not photos, but still usually accurate.[QUOTE]

To my knowledge, none of the Courier wagons had provisions for a back seat as these were marketed as haulers and appealed to Mom-n-Pop grocers, Newspaper/parcel deliveries, Floral deliveries, Coroners offices, Police departments, etc.
The Couriers each probably came from the factory with a city bus drivers seat only, however a full bench seat from a 2-door car could have been ordered and installed by the local dealer.
I don't recall ever seeing a Courier with exterior trim options back in the day other than a luggage rack on the roof, but they might have had a variety of electrical/lighting options for police and fire departments.

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