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Old 12-28-2017, 11:47 AM   #1
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Default Re: Two-Door Ford and Mercury Wagons

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You forgot about the NOMAD and SAFARI wagons..."


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No - those mentioned machines used a "B" pillar.

Therefore they are classified as sedans.

The Merc hardtop wagons did not use any sort of "B" pillar and went directly to the "C" pillar.

Even the use of the "C" pillar term on the Merc hardtop wagons is a debatable topic since the rear windows were not compleatly captive.

They could have been referred to as the "D" pillar.

For simplisticity sake lets just call the Merc hardtop wagons as using an "A","C" and "D" pillar.
Noting the missing "B" pillar since no hardtops have "B" pillars.

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Old 12-28-2017, 12:25 PM   #2
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Kultulz says

"Coffee decaf this morning?

You forgot about the NOMAD and SAFARI wagons..."
No - those mentioned machines used a "B" pillar.

Therefore they are classified as sedans.

The Merc hardtop wagons did not use any sort of "B" pillar and went directly to the "C" pillar.

Even the use of the "C" pillar term on the Merc hardtop wagons is a debatable topic since the rear windows were not compleatly captive.

They could have been referred to as the "D" pillar.

For simplisticity sake lets just call the Merc hardtop wagons as using an "A","C" and "D" pillar.

Noting the missing "B" pillar since no hardtops have "B" pillars.
Hmm...

Got me again. I was thinking of the no glass frame door and did not think of the B-Pillar...


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I think we grew up in the same neighborhood - just on opposit sides of the street.

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You must be allergic to wool as I seem to be having a difficult time trying to pull it over your eyes...

sheesh ...

... hmm... NOMAD - CROWN VIC - Later RANCHERO ... curses ...
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Hmm...

Got me again. I was thinking of the no glass frame door and did not think of the B-Pillar...



You must be allergic to wool as I seem to be having a difficult time trying to pull it over your eyes...

sheesh ...

... hmm... NOMAD - CROWN VIC - Later RANCHERO ... curses ...
It seems I am not the only one. FORD ENGINEERING missed a few classes too...

[quote]The 2-Door Pillared Hardtop



Let’s stop beating around the bush with such polite descriptions of the ’70s as The Great Brougham Epoch, The Faux Luxury Era, The Loose-Pillow Era, The Malaise Era, The Bordello Era, et al. In truth, the decade was The Stupid Era.



How the hell else to explain this roof design: Two stupid fixed panes that in no way way line up with or relate to each other. It’s as though PPG called up Ford and said, “Hey, we’ve got a couple hundred thousand little window panes in two odd sizes, and we really need to get rid of them. We’ll make you a deal.” and Ford replied,”Yeah, send ’em on over. We’ll make ’em fit somehow.” And so they did.

Incredibly, Ford actually managed to top that stroke of genius with what must be the stupidest name ever coined: The 2-Door Pillared Hardtop. How stupid did they think we were?
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Hmm...

Got me again. I was thinking of the no glass frame door and did not think of the B-Pillar...



You must be allergic to wool as I seem to be having a difficult time trying to pull it over your eyes...

sheesh ...

... hmm... NOMAD - CROWN VIC - Later RANCHERO ... curses ...
It seems I am not the only one. FORD ENGINEERING missed a few classes too...

The 2-Door Pillared Hardtop



Let’s stop beating around the bush with such polite descriptions of the ’70s as The Great Brougham Epoch, The Faux Luxury Era, The Loose-Pillow Era, The Malaise Era, The Bordello Era, et al. In truth, the decade was The Stupid Era.



How the hell else to explain this roof design: Two stupid fixed panes that in no way way line up with or relate to each other. It’s as though PPG called up Ford and said, “Hey, we’ve got a couple hundred thousand little window panes in two odd sizes, and we really need to get rid of them. We’ll make you a deal.” and Ford replied,”Yeah, send ’em on over. We’ll make ’em fit somehow.” And so they did.

Incredibly, Ford actually managed to top that stroke of genius with what must be the stupidest name ever coined: The 2-Door Pillared Hardtop. How stupid did they think we were?
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...ok....

Seems my browser is carousing without me...

Sorry for the double post and I cannot EDIT it...

Seems Oldmic hasn't a pleasing sense of humor and kicks when one tries to pull his leg...
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Kultulz says

"Seems Oldmic hasn't a pleasing sense of humor and kicks when one tries to pull his leg... [/QUOTE]"

I"ll admit my sense of humor is not as fluid as the engineers who dreamed up those panes .

We always referred to those idiosyncrasys as "opera windows".

They were always a fixture IN the "C" pillars . A term I believe that was a holdover from the horse drawn carriage days.

Just flat out STUPID but it was the 70s .

Never saw them on a 2 door wagon however.

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We always referred to those idiosyncrasys as "opera windows".


...damn...

We do think alike a lot...

I figured out (I think) what happened to my post. I cut and paste some text from the page I found this subject on and it must have sent this forum haywire...

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The vehicle shown- The smaller glass in the C-Pillar was an Opera Glass and the larger a Quarter Glass...

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How about the exterior pillar lamps on the LINC of the period?
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