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Old 08-15-2017, 12:13 AM   #1
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Lowering phosfor and ZDDP caused by polutioncontrol and lifespan for catalytic converters will continue...
ZDDP was introduced as a bearing material protection since going from pure babbit bearings to harder less chemical stable alloys needed a surface antioxidant and corrosion inhibitor.
For older engines that is parked for long periods the newer oils with more detergent and less corrosion protection to be able to meet cleanleness is another issue.
I said it before...Phosfor and ZDDP is the best additive for engine oil invented and the only reason it is taken away is polution control...when it drops under 900ppm any engine start getting issues...not only in the valvetrain but corrosion and bearing material oxidation.
Modern oil is not dictated by performance needs...it´s goverment polution control setting standards...and a modern car expected life is 7 years.
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Old 08-15-2017, 01:39 AM   #2
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Lowering phosfor and ZDDP caused by polutioncontrol and lifespan for catalytic converters will continue ....................and a modern car expected life is 7 years.
......which is about double what it was in the '50's. Back then rocker panels rusted out in a year or two in the cold country. Valve jobs were often needed around 50,000 miles, and a complete overhaul usually well before 100,000 miles ( if you didn't just junk that heap with the rusted out floors). If you didn't put seat covers on when new, you did after 3 or 4 years because the seats were ripped and the stuffing was coming out. Brakes were used up in a year or two. Practically every corner gas station in the country had a rack full of tailpipes and shelves of mufflers, which rotted off in a year. Seeing smoke pouring out of a 5 or 6 year old car was common (but seldom if ever, did a camshaft go flat). A kid could burn out a clutch,, strip tranny gears, or break an axle within a day of getting his license. Not any more! Go to a used car lot and look over some 2010 models. Rust is rare. Upholstery is usually intact. A 2010 Honda Accord, for example, will cost you around $8-10,000. With around a 100,000 miles, with the original spark plugs and brakes.
They sure don't make them like they used to! (Aren't you glad?!)
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Old 08-16-2017, 05:07 PM   #3
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A 2010 Honda Accord, for example, will cost you around $8-10,000. With around a 100,000 miles, with the original spark plugs and brakes. They sure don't make them like they used to! (Aren't you glad?!)
Yes but when the computer goes to heaven on that 7 year old Honda, you'll be lucky to find a replacement that isn't already used. No computer = non running car.

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