About to have a problem with a ford barner

[FlatheadTed]

I have been asked by a seller more than once to send the paypal money as a friend transaction ,I refused anticipating the dilemma you are in ,I just offer to ad the PP fee. It pays to send a customer plenty of good photos so he can make a informed purchase .Normally if he starts a PP dispute when you see the doors returned they will release the money to him ,also there is a time limit to when he can lodge a claim . Ted

[flatheadmurre]

Isnt it so that sending it as a payment gives the buyer more power then sending it as a "gift" ??
As i see it now the buyer cant get the money back since it was a "gift".
So if he dont return the doors in good condition just stay away from him in the future.

[CarlG]

Originally Posted by FlatheadTed

I have been asked by a seller more than once to send the paypal money as a friend transaction ,I refused anticipating the dilemma you are in ,I just offer to ad the PP fee... Ted

Exactly what I do. You have to pay the fee anyway, might just as well add it into the price going forward.

[LazarusLong]

Originally Posted by FlatheadTed

I have been asked by a seller more than once to send the paypal money as a friend transaction ,I refused anticipating the dilemma you are in ,I just offer to ad the PP fee.

And there you have it. Using the "friends and family" pay method is a very good indicator that you MAY be shady and willing to cut corners because you have already agreed to cheat PayPal out of the fees they have earned for providing you both with a service. When you do this you have nothing to bitch about if it comes back on you.

The flip side is the buyer is in the same boat as you,or he wouldn't have agreed to cheat Pay Pal out of their fees.

I am honestly not trying to be insulting because I think most people who do this don't even think about it enough to realize it is a form of cheating or stealing,and most who do justify it by telling themselves "They are a multi-million dollar operation,so they can afford it."

BUT...,the fact is that cheating and stealing are still cheating and stealing and it makes no difference if it is Bill Gates you are stealing and cheating,or a homeless orphan.

Which is why the seller can't afford to take a chance on sending the money back before he gets the doors,and the buyer can't afford to take a chance on getting his money back if he sends the doors back first.

It's not the end of the world and it's not something that puts you in the league of a master career criminal,but what it can be if you think about it rationally is a learning moment. From now on do things they way they are supposed to be done,and you will have options available to you if there is any quarrel. This applies to both buyers and sellers.

And "YES,I HAVE done this myself." I did it once,and was lucky enough I got away with it. The parts were delivered to me and they were as described. I will never do it again,though. The worry about not having any recovery options combined with the guilt just isn't worth it to me.

[Ross F-1]

Originally Posted by LazarusLong

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And "YES,I HAVE done this myself." I did it once,and was lucky enough I got away with it. The parts were delivered to me and they were as described. I will never do it again,though. The worry about not having any recovery options combined with the guilt just isn't worth it to me.

I had a guy do a payment as a "gift" to dodge the fees, and then he put "for fenders" in the Comments box for the payment. PP isn't stupid, if they see something like that, they might take away both participants' rights to use their system. Not worth it to me to save $3 or $4.

[Lanny]

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Originally Posted by Ross F-1

I had a guy do a payment as a "gift" to dodge the fees, and then he put "for fenders" in the Comments box for the payment. PP isn't stupid, if they see something like that, they might take away both participants' rights to use their system. Not worth it to me to save $3 or $4.

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That has to be BS.

PayPal DON'T ask the BUYER to pay any fees,
they only ask the seller to pay fees.









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[39topless]

Originally Posted by LazarusLong

And there you have it. Using the "friends and family" pay method is a very good indicator that you MAY be shady and willing to cut corners because you have already agreed to cheat PayPal out of the fees they have earned for providing you both with a service. When you do this you have nothing to bitch about if it comes back on you.

The flip side is the buyer is in the same boat as you,or he wouldn't have agreed to cheat Pay Pal out of their fees.

I am honestly not trying to be insulting because I think most people who do this don't even think about it enough to realize it is a form of cheating or stealing,and most who do justify it by telling themselves "They are a multi-million dollar operation,so they can afford it."

BUT...,the fact is that cheating and stealing are still cheating and stealing and it makes no difference if it is Bill Gates you are stealing and cheating,or a homeless orphan.

Which is why the seller can't afford to take a chance on sending the money back before he gets the doors,and the buyer can't afford to take a chance on getting his money back if he sends the doors back first.

It's not the end of the world and it's not something that puts you in the league of a master career criminal,but what it can be if you think about it rationally is a learning moment. From now on do things they way they are supposed to be done,and you will have options available to you if there is any quarrel. This applies to both buyers and sellers.

And "YES,I HAVE done this myself." I did it once,and was lucky enough I got away with it. The parts were delivered to me and they were as described. I will never do it again,though. The worry about not having any recovery options combined with the guilt just isn't worth it to me.

Great advice. A cheater is a cheater (sorry Yogi, RIP).