cameraderie

[hope]

I've been surfing for a long time,verry seldom posting,seems to me there's something missing from the old Ford barn, dont ask me what it is but i have this uneasy feeling Something is missing!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ol' Ron]

Me too, but it's the only game in town. Enjoy!

[tom/illinois]

I ditto that guys. It's just not the same old place.

[ken ct]

I agree too,liked the old barn better. To me it was easier to get around on it,but its all we have. ken isidor ct.

[rogeroadster]

That's an interesting observation. I just mostly lurk also and to me it has quickly settled back to the old ford barn in just a different format.

[55 dude]

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was the old place easier to post pictures? this new format with everyone posting pictures of their vehicles in various stages of building or done is killer. as a old mopar guy i can honestly say in the last month i have learned a huge amount about old fords. my 38' isn't stock but the stuff that gets posted is pretty interesting, keep posting tech with pictures.

[4dFord/SC]

Originally Posted by 55 dude

was the old place easier to post pictures?

NO!! The new format is much more photo friendly.

[blacktopbuddha]

Just like your old flathead. You can take your time and clean, measure, align, and straighten and get what you get, OR you can rush and build it dirty and akilter then get what you get.

[fordscript]

I also liked the old 'barn, was very saddened when I learned it was going away, but am more than delighted with what we now have. All these photo's etc are just GREAT. Thanks to Ryan and all the contributors.

[Hoop]

"The Quicker You Let Go Of Old Cheese, The Sooner You Can Enjoy New Cheese."

Who Moved My Cheese? a book by Spencer Johnson, features four characters; two mice, "Sniff" and "Scurry," and two littlepeople, miniature humans in essence, "Hem" and "Haw." They live in a maze, a representation of one's environment, and look for cheese, representative of happiness and success. Initially without cheese, each group, the mice and humans, paired off and traveled the lengthy corridor searching for cheese. One day both groups happen upon a cheese-filled corridor in "Cheese Station C". Content with their find, the humans establish routines around their daily intake of cheese, slowly becoming arrogant in the process.

One day Sniff and Scurry arrive at Cheese Station C to find no cheese left but they are not surprised. Noticing the cheese supply dwindling, they have mentally prepared beforehand for the arduous but inevitable task of finding more cheese. Leaving Cheese Station C behind, they begin their hunt for new cheese together. Later that day, Hem and Haw arrive at Cheese Station C only to find the same thing, no cheese. Angered and annoyed, Hem demands, "Who moved my cheese?" Unprepared, the humans have counted on the cheese supply to be constant. After verifying that the cheese is indeed gone they rant at the unfairness of the situation and both head home hungry. Returning the next day, Hem and Haw find the same cheeseless station. Beginning to realize the situation at hand, Haw proposes a search for new cheese. But Hem is dead set in his victimized mindset and nixes the proposal.

Meanwhile, Sniff and Scurry have found "Cheese Station N", a new supply of cheese. Back at Cheese Station C, Hem and Haw are affected by their lack of cheese and blame each other for their predicament. Hoping to change, Haw again proposes a search for new cheese. However, Hem is comforted by his old routine and also afraid of the unknown. So again he knocks the idea. After many days in denial (including a search for cheese behind the wall of Cheese Station C) the humans remain without cheese. One day, having discovered his debilitating fears, Haw begins to laugh at the situation and stopped taking himself so seriously. Realizing he should simply move on, Haw enters the maze, but not before chiseling "If You Do Not Change, You Can Become Extinct" on the wall of Cheese Station C for his friend to ponder. Still fearful of his trek, Haw jots "What Would You Do If You Weren't Afraid?" on the wall and, after thinking about that, he begins his journey. Still plagued with worry (perhaps he has waited too long to begin his search...), Haw finds some scattered cheese that nourishes him and he is able to continue his search.

Slowly losing his denial, Haw realizes that the cheese has not suddenly disappeared, but has dwindled from continual eating, and that the older cheese was not as tasty and had been moldy. After a letdown, an empty cheese station, Haw begins worrying about the unknown again. Brushing aside his fears, Haw's new mindset allows him to again enjoy life. He has even begun to smile again! He is realizing that "When you move beyond your fear, you feel free." After another empty cheese station, Haw decides to go back for Hem with the few bits of new cheese he has managed to find. Uncompromising, Hem turns away the new cheese, to his friend's dismay.

With knowledge acquired along the way, Haw heads back into the maze. Going still deeper into the maze, impelled by bits of new cheese here and there, Haw leaves a trail of writings on the wall ("The Handwriting On the Wall"). These clarify his own thinking and give him hope that his friend will find aid in them during his search for new cheese. Still traveling, Haw one day comes across Cheese Station N, abundant with cheese, including some varieties that are strange to him, and he realizes he has found what he is looking for. After eating, Haw reflects on his experience. He ponders a return to see his old friend. But Haw decides to let Hem find his own way. Finding the largest wall in Cheese Station N, he writes:

Change Happens
They Keep Moving The Cheese

Anticipate Change
Get Ready For The Cheese To Move

Monitor Change
Smell The Cheese Often So You Know When It Is Getting Old

Adapt To Change Quickly
The Quicker You Let Go Of Old Cheese, The Sooner You Can Enjoy New Cheese

Change
Move With The Cheese

Enjoy Change!
Savor The Adventure And Enjoy The Taste Of New Cheese!

Be Ready To Change Quickly And Enjoy It Again & Again
They Keep Moving The Cheese.

(From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

[jdl]

Well put Hoop, I enjoy change, some do some don't.....

[raceron1120]

Originally Posted by Hoop

"The Quicker You Let Go Of Old Cheese, The Sooner You Can Enjoy New Cheese." Who Moved My Cheese?

What a great story! It can relate to nearly any situation. I think as we get older it's tougher to change habits we've had for years.

As for the comaraderie, I think I know what some of you mean. How I wish we could sit around the woodstove like when I was a kid, while Dad and his cronies told stories. . . well it ain't like that no more and ain't never gonna be that way again.

Being in the Air Force and working for the Army for most of the last 39 years, I've seen plenty of persons come and go, some never to return while others might only be a click or 2 away. Like it or not, we learn to embrace change, but we don't have to forget the old days & ways.

[itslow]

Originally Posted by Hoop

I hate modern plumbing! Never mind the fact that it's easier to use, far more sanitary, and won't cause you to freeze your behind off in the winter. Life was so much better back in the days when we had to use outhouses and hand pumps.

That goes for electricity, too. Worst discovery ever! I hope it fails and we have to go back to oil lamps and camp fires.

[4dFord/SC]

Originally Posted by itslow

I hate modern plumbing! Never mind the fact that it's easier to use, far more sanitary, and won't cause you to freeze your behind off in the winter. Life was so much better back in the days when we had to use outhouses and hand pumps.

Blame the demise of the outhouse on the discontinuation of catalogs by the likes of Sears Roebuck, Montgomery Ward, and J. C. Penney. Even with increased corn yields, there weren't enough corn cobs to make up the deficit.

[WHITEY]

I just like old Fords, enjoy working on them and with their parts, its hard to explain. I would like to gain knowledge from those who have done the work for years, and enjoyed the parts. I hope to share what I know(not much),post some of what Im doing, have done, and encourage others to do the same....

[Vic Piano]

Change, while inevitable, is sometimes good and sometimes not. For the most part, I'm enjoying the "new" FordBarn format however; I do agree that some of the camaraderie and even the banter have vanished. This format makes things seem much more impersonal in my opinion but, it is what it is and I'm glad we still have a place to congregate,

[Cecil/WV]

Originally Posted by Vic Piano

Change, while inevitable, is sometimes good and sometimes not. For the most part, I'm enjoying the "new" FordBarn format however; I do agree that some of the camaraderie and even the banter have vanished. This format makes things seem much more impersonal in my opinion but, it is what it is and I'm glad we still have a place to congregate,

I agree with what you have said, Vic. This format is easy to post pictures and has many options that we never had before, but the only similarity to the old Barn is the name. This site is very impersonal, it seems to me. But, its all we have now.

[52merc]

Originally Posted by Vic Piano

Change, while inevitable, is sometimes good and sometimes not. For the most part, I'm enjoying the "new" FordBarn format however; I do agree that some of the camaraderie and even the banter have vanished. This format makes things seem much more impersonal in my opinion but, it is what it is and I'm glad we still have a place to congregate,

hi vic when you read all the posts on this thread the main thing that comes up is how easy it is to post photos,i know we all like to post photos but as has been said the camaraderie is not there & it will never be there ,i gather you & others have not had personal messages sent to you with s/a remarks ect ect ect it is quite obvious what site these guys are from, the undertone of there messages leaves something to be desired,we have all heard the stories of that site & what they seemed to have got away with ,,however as ol ron said this is the only game in town for the moment at least, trev

[blacktopbuddha]

Originally Posted by 52merc

camaraderie is not there & it will never be there

The new barn is barely a month along and you expect what was built after 10 years on the old site to be nearly instantaneous here?
As in anything new, there are going to be growing pains. Here there's new members and the old members trying to learn their way around. Almost everyone is learning something new in these early stages.
Also, the on-line aspect of it makes it a bit harder than sitting around a garage or wherever face to face. You have to be a bit more cautious in this instance, at least I am.
Seems to me the only ones who are really hindering the feeling of a growing community and camaraderie here are the ones who are, for lack of better words, bratty and whiny about it.
Why not just look for the positive aspects and try to improve the not so glowing points.
Give it a chance instead of writing it off for all the future.

[flatjack9]

Originally Posted by 52merc

hi vic when you read all the posts on this thread the main thing that comes up is how easy it is to post photos,i know we all like to post photos but as has been said the camaraderie is not there & it will never be there ,i gather you & others have not had personal messages sent to you with s/a remarks ect ect ect it is quite obvious what site these guys are from, the undertone of there messages leaves something to be desired,we have all heard the stories of that site & what they seemed to have got away with ,,however as ol ron said this is the only game in town for the moment at least, trev

Hey Trev, you've got to get out from under that black cloud over your head. Lighten up, man.