The Ford Barn

spdway1 · 11-10-2011, 08:08 PM

I am 37 years old, I own a 29 A p/u truck and a 30 AA Grain truck. I have been involved in Model A's for over 20 years

. I search online forums, club sites, auctions and classifieds daily always looking to buy/collect 1928-1931 Ford vehicles and parts, this brings me to my question...What is an original vehicle? To me it means UNrestored, I see people list vehicles as original and it is a fully restored vehicle with new replacement parts. Parts is a different topic.Thank you for your thoughts.

Steve Plucker · 11-10-2011, 08:14 PM

I to would like to see a listing of just how vehicles are classified and the criteria which makes them so. There must be a list or something somewhere.

From Original to Restored and all inbetween.

Pluck

Marco Tahtaras · 11-10-2011, 08:28 PM

I agree with you technically. However after 40+ years in the hobby (I'm 55), I'm also a realist. "unrestored" usually means DESPERATELY needs a restoration or worse! "restored" means painted and USUALLY even runs. "Original" means not street rodded.

Having played with decent unrestored Model A's most of my life I came up with the term "unmolested" for clarity which many who know me have likewise adopted.

Jerry Parr WI · 11-10-2011, 09:57 PM

About the only word more abused than restored is classic. Think of the poor people with real classic cars when they're dealing with mid 50's chevys. Seems like a another classic misuse of a term. Model A's only have to deal with "restored" red velvet interiors.

Huckster Dave · 11-11-2011, 02:07 AM

I wonder how many threads like this one that I have read over the 6 years I have owned a Model A? They never end with anything definitive, and life as I know it just seems to move along at a faster pace than the A. Does it really make a difference. My A,s are just that mine. I am free to do with it as I please. Just love them, drive them, repair them, and most of all enjoy them. We can stand around and and say oh no that is the wrong color or the wrong material or the wrong wheels. Marco's roadster is the acme of correctness for a model A and would love to have one like it but I am sure that he does not enjoy it any more than I do mine.

jim1932 · 11-11-2011, 07:57 AM

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To me original means original parts, restored means looks like new either with original or frequently with reproduction parts. Un molested means it has what it was manufactured with, no replacements other than maintenance. But this is just the way i look at the world and other people defiantly see is different.

BRENT in 10-uh-C · 11-11-2011, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Parr WI

About the only word more abused than restored is classic. Think of the poor people with real classic cars when they're dealing with mid 50's chevys. Seems like a another classic misuse of a term. Model A's only have to deal with "restored" red velvet interiors.

I dunno Jerry, I am thinking the term "Barn Find" rates right up there too!

Tim B. · 11-11-2011, 08:56 AM

Ah, the age old debate.

I would suggest the answer to the question depends on who you are. I suspect that most of us are actually preservationists. We as most of those before us are tinkerers and like to improve things and keep our cars going for enjoyment thus preserving our vehicles to pass on to the next generation. Others of us are restorationists searching for that original part, research the history & color of their cars, and use original materials to historically maintain their vehicles. Still others are conservationists that keep as much original material as possible to pass on. All perfom an important function. I prefer not to worry where everyone fits in. We all have a common interest and I suspect we all enjoy the hunt for a new project, a missing part and maybe the skinned knuckles. I'm with Huckster Dave. Regardless of who you are the car will talk to you when it is the right one.

Tim

11-10-2011, 08:08 PM	#1
spdway1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Chicopee, MA Posts: 1,493	Original ? I am 37 years old, I own a 29 A p/u truck and a 30 AA Grain truck. I have been involved in Model A's for over 20 years. I search online forums, club sites, auctions and classifieds daily always looking to buy/collect 1928-1931 Ford vehicles and parts, this brings me to my question...What is an original vehicle? To me it means UNrestored, I see people list vehicles as original and it is a fully restored vehicle with new replacement parts. Parts is a different topic.Thank you for your thoughts.

11-10-2011, 08:14 PM	#2
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Re: Original ? I to would like to see a listing of just how vehicles are classified and the criteria which makes them so. There must be a list or something somewhere. From Original to Restored and all inbetween. Pluck

11-10-2011, 08:28 PM	#3
Marco Tahtaras Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,099	Re: Original ? I agree with you technically. However after 40+ years in the hobby (I'm 55), I'm also a realist. "unrestored" usually means DESPERATELY needs a restoration or worse! "restored" means painted and USUALLY even runs. "Original" means not street rodded. Having played with decent unrestored Model A's most of my life I came up with the term "unmolested" for clarity which many who know me have likewise adopted. __________________ http://www.abarnyard.com/

11-10-2011, 09:57 PM	#4
Jerry Parr WI Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 619	Re: Original ? About the only word more abused than restored is classic. Think of the poor people with real classic cars when they're dealing with mid 50's chevys. Seems like a another classic misuse of a term. Model A's only have to deal with "restored" red velvet interiors.

11-11-2011, 02:07 AM	#5
Huckster Dave Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Ronan, Montana Posts: 158	Re: Original ? I wonder how many threads like this one that I have read over the 6 years I have owned a Model A? They never end with anything definitive, and life as I know it just seems to move along at a faster pace than the A. Does it really make a difference. My A,s are just that mine. I am free to do with it as I please. Just love them, drive them, repair them, and most of all enjoy them. We can stand around and and say oh no that is the wrong color or the wrong material or the wrong wheels. Marco's roadster is the acme of correctness for a model A and would love to have one like it but I am sure that he does not enjoy it any more than I do mine.

11-11-2011, 07:57 AM	#6
jim1932 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hancock, MA Posts: 2,810	Re: Original ? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) To me original means original parts, restored means looks like new either with original or frequently with reproduction parts. Un molested means it has what it was manufactured with, no replacements other than maintenance. But this is just the way i look at the world and other people defiantly see is different.

11-11-2011, 08:56 AM	#8
Tim B. Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 162	Re: Original ? Ah, the age old debate. I would suggest the answer to the question depends on who you are. I suspect that most of us are actually preservationists. We as most of those before us are tinkerers and like to improve things and keep our cars going for enjoyment thus preserving our vehicles to pass on to the next generation. Others of us are restorationists searching for that original part, research the history & color of their cars, and use original materials to historically maintain their vehicles. Still others are conservationists that keep as much original material as possible to pass on. All perfom an important function. I prefer not to worry where everyone fits in. We all have a common interest and I suspect we all enjoy the hunt for a new project, a missing part and maybe the skinned knuckles. I'm with Huckster Dave. Regardless of who you are the car will talk to you when it is the right one. Tim