Can someone please ID this trans?

[ventilo]

Can someone please ID this transmission, I was told it should be Ford A or AA?
What's that wire on the shifter for?

It's located in Germany, so might differ in detail to the US versions.

[Mike V. Florida]

Looks like an AA tranny. The plate for the universial had 6 holes and the part number cast on the left (drivers) side.

[Tom Wesenberg]

The rod on the shifter is to release the catch, so you can shift into reverse.

[ventilo]

Thanks

[Reds34]

It's not an AA, notice there is no pedal shaft on the case. Also notice the plate on the rear of the transmission for the rear motor mount. I would say it is for a 32-34 four cylinder truck. The wire is for the reverse lockout.

Red

[pat in Santa Cruz]

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I agree with Red, I think its a Model BB trans, 32-34. The starter mount is for a 4 cylinder, the rear motor mount is early to mid 30's. Its 4 fwd speeds with reverse and power take off plate.

[Jerry Parr WI]

32BB as it is for a 4 cylinder and the rear mount was exclusive to the 32.

[d.j. moordigian]

I'm with Jerry, the rear mount and the the bell housing looks like 1932. The lever
on the stick is a reverse lock-out.
Dudley

[Bruce Lancaster]

The BB is especially likely in Germany...I believe BB's were built there up into the war years, continuing in production alongside '35-6 and 1940 type V8 trucks. And I do think that mount style was used '32-4 on the trucks.

[CWPASADENA]

Originally Posted by Jerry Parr WI

32BB as it is for a 4 cylinder and the rear mount was exclusive to the 32.

Originally Posted by d.j. moordigian

I'm with Jerry, the rear mount and the the bell housing looks like 1932. The lever
on the stick is a reverse lock-out.
Dudley

I AGREE!!!!

The case is 32-34 Four Cyl,

BUT the rear mount is '32 only.

Chris

[Bruce Lancaster]

I think that mount design was used '33-4 as well in BB line. It is similar to the '32 only passenger/commercial mount, different in detail...but in Germany, I think it would be 1932. I think they kept the '32 version of the BB in production til about 1940.

[Jerry Parr WI]

Originally Posted by Bruce Lancaster

I think that mount design was used '33-4 as well in BB line. It is similar to the '32 only passenger/commercial mount, different in detail...but in Germany, I think it would be 1932. I think they kept the '32 version of the BB in production til about 1940.

The 33-34 rear mount used the rubber sandwich arrangement like the 32 but attached to the frame with an ear on each side rather than the 4 bolt attachment of 32.

[Reds34]

The rear mount isn't '32 only, the one for my '34 is the same.

Red

[Bruce Lancaster]

"The 33-34 rear mount used the rubber sandwich arrangement like the 32 but attached to the frame with an ear on each side rather than the 4 bolt attachment of 32. " That is CAR and commercial. The mount shown is TRUCK, similar in style to B passenger, but with relieved edges, trapezoidal frame bolt pattern, and of course totally different bearing retainer for the big trans. Catalog confirms my junkyard observations, '32-4 BB. Don't think '33-4 style BB's were made in Germany, though, the '32 remained in production for a long time.
Terrifically obscure '32 BB factoid for Vince: A book I have on Fords in German military in WWII states that '32 BB's produced from '33 til ~1940's can be spotted by their different headlight bars, straighter than '32!
The book shows a Wehrmacht deuce blown on its side by something violent...
If I can find that book again I want to see if later BB's got the full floater axles, '34 style, which British and Russian AA types eventually got.

[ventilo]

To my information Modell BBs were built until 1939 in Germany, the headlight bar changed in 1937. This picture was taken in 1935:



The most remarkable BBs were probably the steam engines, developed by a Berlin Ford dealership named "Butenuth".

[Bruce Lancaster]

"The most remarkable BBs were probably the steam engines, developed by a Berlin Ford dealership named "Butenuth". "

More! More! German Ford stuff is very interesting, a lot of history that has almost vanished. There were probably lots of these things around during my time in Hamburg in the early fifties, but I was too young to notice anything but the real oddities then. Bubble cars and whole families packed onto probably ex-military motorccles with side hack...
By the time I returned to Germany in the sixties, there was nothing old to be seen anywhere on the streets.

[ventilo]

Butenuth's developments were backed by the Ford works in Cologne, but when fuel became readily available again in the late '40s his steam engine research was stopped. Only four steam engined trucks were build, one of them a Ford BB. It used the Ford's engine converted to steam operating in a two-stroke cycle!
I'd like to include a picture of one this trucks, but can't find it right now in our files (I've seen one for sure...).

After introduction of the new "Deutsche Mark" in '48 he developed a truck named "Econom", subsidized by the US Marshall-plan. Production continued until 1954 and reached 250 in total.

[ventilo]

I've found the Butenuth Ford steam truck picture.
Looks like a B3000 Ford with the plywood cab, the simplified fenders and the smaller headlamps, apparently very late production.