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Neil Mylar LakewoodCA · 10-01-2024, 12:43 AM

My 1929 unrestored station wagon is missing the inside bottom flat bracket that has the 2 square holes that hold the body to frame carriage bolts.

Does anyone have that flat bracket for sale that I could weld onto my pillar?
I would consider buying a whole door pillar if it was located near southern California.
Thanks, Neil

Neil Mylar LakewoodCA · 10-01-2024, 12:52 AM

This is what the missing side looks like.

Neil Mylar LakewoodCA · 10-01-2024, 12:56 AM

This is what the missing side looks like.

Neil Mylar LakewoodCA · 10-01-2024, 01:00 AM

The good side. Notice the square carriage bolts holes.

Neil Mylar LakewoodCA · 10-01-2024, 03:04 AM

Note: The bottom of the door pillar might be the same from other 28/29 Ford body styles.

jb-ob · 10-01-2024, 07:28 AM

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Try your friends at Bert's ??

GT40David · 10-01-2024, 01:43 PM

I can't tell if it has been cut off or it is the whole part gone, use the side you do have as a pattern and make the other side.

ronn · 10-02-2024, 12:04 AM

what GT40 said................

Neil Mylar LakewoodCA · 10-02-2024, 02:35 AM

I checked with Bert's. They dont have one at the moment.

The lower driver's side flat section has been broken off. I would prefer to find an original section. If I cannot find one then as suggested, I will have to use the other side as a pattern. I appreciate the suggestions.

GT40David · 10-02-2024, 04:06 AM

I don't think you need the pillar, just the reinforcement.

Neil Mylar LakewoodCA · 10-02-2024, 07:21 AM

GT40David,
You are absolutely right, but I may not be able to buy one separate.
Neil

jb-ob · 10-02-2024, 07:45 AM

Neil, Keep hunting, it's only a Model A part. It's out there.

rotorwrench · 10-02-2024, 09:33 AM

Not as many station wagons out there as coupes or tudors. I would look for a regular Coupe A pillar reinforcement and then cut the piece you need and weld it to the wagon reinforcement piece that's left. That is likely a fairly thick gauge of metal but it could be sourced. Fabricate a radius to bend the right angle in a vise then trim and weld as necessary. Square holes can be filed from smaller round ones for the carriage bolts. Where there's a will, there's a way.

Fullraceflathead · 10-02-2024, 09:47 AM

Sorry I can't help you Neil with the missing part but that is 1 beautiful model A. station wagon you have!!!

Neil Mylar LakewoodCA · 10-02-2024, 02:54 PM

Thank you for all the advice and for the compliment.

I'm restoring the running gear, but plan on leaving the body with the original patina.

KMBeers · 10-02-2024, 06:11 PM

Try Bill's Model Acres Ford Farm, Watsontown, PA 570-538-3200. He may be able to help. He is old school so you may have to mail him a copy of the picture but he has a lot of cars and he may be able to get you a part from one of those. Hope this help.

updraught · 10-02-2024, 08:14 PM

The bracket looks similar to the Australian bodies that had a wooden frame for local content, and used coach bolts.

ModelA29 · 10-02-2024, 09:22 PM

Check with Michael at Early Ford Store in San Dimas. He might have one lying around. He's working on his wagon now. https://www.earlyfordstore.com/

I don't know what Moss in Orange has sitting around.

Neil Mylar LakewoodCA · 12-04-2024, 12:27 AM

I found a similar bracket. I cut out the missing section and a neighbor help weld it in place.

Chuck Dempsey · 12-04-2024, 08:56 AM

Thanks for the update!

10-01-2024, 03:04 AM	#5
Neil Mylar LakewoodCA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakewood, CA Posts: 1,457	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. Note: The bottom of the door pillar might be the same from other 28/29 Ford body styles.

10-01-2024, 07:28 AM	#6
jb-ob Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 788	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Try your friends at Bert's ??

10-01-2024, 01:43 PM	#7
GT40David Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2024 Posts: 26	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. I can't tell if it has been cut off or it is the whole part gone, use the side you do have as a pattern and make the other side.

10-02-2024, 12:04 AM	#8
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 7,651	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. what GT40 said................

10-02-2024, 02:35 AM	#9
Neil Mylar LakewoodCA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakewood, CA Posts: 1,457	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. I checked with Bert's. They dont have one at the moment. The lower driver's side flat section has been broken off. I would prefer to find an original section. If I cannot find one then as suggested, I will have to use the other side as a pattern. I appreciate the suggestions.

10-02-2024, 04:06 AM	#10
GT40David Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2024 Posts: 26	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. I don't think you need the pillar, just the reinforcement. Last edited by GT40David; 10-02-2024 at 04:40 AM. Reason: Add photo

10-02-2024, 07:21 AM	#11
Neil Mylar LakewoodCA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakewood, CA Posts: 1,457	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. GT40David, You are absolutely right, but I may not be able to buy one separate. Neil

10-02-2024, 07:45 AM	#12
jb-ob Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 788	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. Neil, Keep hunting, it's only a Model A part. It's out there.

10-02-2024, 09:33 AM	#13
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 17,411	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. Not as many station wagons out there as coupes or tudors. I would look for a regular Coupe A pillar reinforcement and then cut the piece you need and weld it to the wagon reinforcement piece that's left. That is likely a fairly thick gauge of metal but it could be sourced. Fabricate a radius to bend the right angle in a vise then trim and weld as necessary. Square holes can be filed from smaller round ones for the carriage bolts. Where there's a will, there's a way.

10-02-2024, 09:47 AM	#14
Fullraceflathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Chillicothe, Missouri Posts: 1,684	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. Sorry I can't help you Neil with the missing part but that is 1 beautiful model A. station wagon you have!!! __________________ "If I asked people what they wanted they would have said faster horses." -Henry Ford "Primitive technology is not a design flaw" 1928 Ford Model A Roadster Pickup 1930 Gordon Smith Air Compressor 1941 Willy's Pickup 1960 Thunderbird-For Sale 1964 Buick Riviera 2x4 425 1965 Pontiac GTO, 455 Super Duty 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10, V-10 Viper 1977 Charger Jet Boat,460 Ford,Jacuzzi Jet Front Engine Nostalgia Dragster,Supercharged 296 "Fullrace Flathead" Ford Engine Build up on DVD ask

10-02-2024, 02:54 PM	#15
Neil Mylar LakewoodCA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakewood, CA Posts: 1,457	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. Thank you for all the advice and for the compliment. I'm restoring the running gear, but plan on leaving the body with the original patina.

10-02-2024, 06:11 PM	#16
KMBeers Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: Havertown, PA Posts: 104	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. Try Bill's Model Acres Ford Farm, Watsontown, PA 570-538-3200. He may be able to help. He is old school so you may have to mail him a copy of the picture but he has a lot of cars and he may be able to get you a part from one of those. Hope this help.

10-02-2024, 08:14 PM	#17
updraught Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 2,143	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. The bracket looks similar to the Australian bodies that had a wooden frame for local content, and used coach bolts.

10-02-2024, 09:22 PM	#18
ModelA29 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,152	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. Check with Michael at Early Ford Store in San Dimas. He might have one lying around. He's working on his wagon now. https://www.earlyfordstore.com/ I don't know what Moss in Orange has sitting around.

12-04-2024, 12:27 AM	#19
Neil Mylar LakewoodCA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakewood, CA Posts: 1,457	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. I found a similar bracket. I cut out the missing section and a neighbor help weld it in place.

12-04-2024, 08:56 AM	#20
Chuck Dempsey Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Waynesville, NC Posts: 964	Re: Help: My 29 station wagon is missing inside bottom bracket of door pillar. Thanks for the update!