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700rpm · 03-19-2013, 10:37 PM

A few months back I asked for current bearing numbers that corresponded to Ford specs. I got good responses, and those helped, but there was nothing for the steering bearings.

What I need now is a Timken tapered bearing number for the two-tooth steering box. This is Ford # A-3571-B, or Bratton's # 5310. Can anyone help?

Thanks.

Rowdy · 03-19-2013, 10:41 PM

Did you check the bearing cross reference page on Jim Masons web site? Rod

700rpm · 03-19-2013, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rowdy

Did you check the bearing cross reference page on Jim Masons web site? Rod

Yes I did, but was unable to find the steering bearings.

columbiA · 03-19-2013, 11:13 PM

Timken # 11BA is the upper & lower brg cone for the 2-tooth steering box. Timken # 13C is the lower brg cup.This is for all 2-tooth boxes EXCEPT the early 30 2-tooth box which uses a different brg angle.

Craig Lewis · 03-19-2013, 11:32 PM

Did you know the 2 tooth steering gear bearings underwent 2 changes in 1930?

In August 30 they widened the brg surface at the worm...requiring a new 2nd bearing #
In Dec 30 they changed the angle of worm & cups...requiring a third brg #

It's laid out in fine detail in the Model A Ford Service Bulletins and maybe worth a read if you don't mind driving yourself nuts arguing with parts vendors.

When I was rebuilding mine I wondered to myself how many people are driving around with tight steering....due to the gear having a wrong combination of cups, worms and bearings?

700rpm · 03-19-2013, 11:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Lewis

Did you know the 2 tooth steering gear bearings underwent 2 changes in 1930?

In August 30 they widened the brg surface at the worm...requiring a new 2nd bearing #
In Dec 30 they changed the angle of worm & cups...requiring a third brg #

It's laid out in fine detail in the Model A Ford Service Bulletins and maybe worth a read if you don't mind driving yourself nuts arguing with parts vendors.

When I was rebuilding mine I wondered to myself how many people are driving around with tight steering....due to the gear having a wrong combination of cups, worms and bearings?

Hi Craig,
Yes, I was aware of that. I'm working on a late 29 two tooth and should have specified that in my inquiry.

Thanks for your suggestions.

28ACoupe · 03-20-2013, 08:19 PM

Do yourself a favor and just buy the rebuild kit from Bert's. It has everything and is very reasonably priced.

700rpm · 03-20-2013, 11:39 PM

I learned today that the current number is Timken 11BA-4000, though my local bearing supply house couldn't find anything like that in their inventory.

I finally just bought a couple from my Model A supplier.

Bob C · 03-21-2013, 11:31 AM

Here's 10 on Epay for $40 with free shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-NEW-in-bo...item231865b549

Bob

03-19-2013, 10:37 PM	#1
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 6,039	Need Tapered bearing numbers A few months back I asked for current bearing numbers that corresponded to Ford specs. I got good responses, and those helped, but there was nothing for the steering bearings. What I need now is a Timken tapered bearing number for the two-tooth steering box. This is Ford # A-3571-B, or Bratton's # 5310. Can anyone help? Thanks. __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

03-19-2013, 10:41 PM	#2
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: Need Tapered bearing numbers Did you check the bearing cross reference page on Jim Masons web site? Rod __________________ Do the RIGHT thing - Support the H.A.M.B. Alliance!!!!

03-19-2013, 11:13 PM	#4
columbiA Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 1,746	Re: Need Tapered bearing numbers Timken # 11BA is the upper & lower brg cone for the 2-tooth steering box. Timken # 13C is the lower brg cup.This is for all 2-tooth boxes EXCEPT the early 30 2-tooth box which uses a different brg angle.

03-19-2013, 11:32 PM	#5
Craig Lewis Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Parksville B.C. Canada Posts: 880	Re: Need Tapered bearing numbers Did you know the 2 tooth steering gear bearings underwent 2 changes in 1930? In August 30 they widened the brg surface at the worm...requiring a new 2nd bearing # In Dec 30 they changed the angle of worm & cups...requiring a third brg # It's laid out in fine detail in the Model A Ford Service Bulletins and maybe worth a read if you don't mind driving yourself nuts arguing with parts vendors. When I was rebuilding mine I wondered to myself how many people are driving around with tight steering....due to the gear having a wrong combination of cups, worms and bearings?

03-20-2013, 08:19 PM	#7
28ACoupe Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 559	Re: Need Tapered bearing numbers Do yourself a favor and just buy the rebuild kit from Bert's. It has everything and is very reasonably priced. __________________ 1928 Model A Business Coupe Rebuild picture gallery here The light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off due to budget cuts.

03-20-2013, 11:39 PM	#8
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 6,039	Re: Need Tapered bearing numbers I learned today that the current number is Timken 11BA-4000, though my local bearing supply house couldn't find anything like that in their inventory. I finally just bought a couple from my Model A supplier. __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

03-21-2013, 11:31 AM	#9
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 9,360	Re: Need Tapered bearing numbers Here's 10 on Epay for $40 with free shipping. http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-NEW-in-bo...item231865b549 Bob