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Old 02-27-2017, 08:18 PM   #1
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Default What's the problem?

I can have the horse shoe opposite way and fits perfect
but actuator key is way off.

Tom. This is the way your pic has it but I can't duplicate
Your results. The horse shoe over shoots tube and
it covers plate spring hole.
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Old 02-27-2017, 08:21 PM   #2
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Have you tried spreading the shoes a bit to help it get closer to fitting?
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Old 02-27-2017, 08:23 PM   #3
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I meant the band!! Pull them a tad where they are split and the lever should raise up closer to the shaft hole.
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Old 02-27-2017, 08:30 PM   #4
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Might be easier with Tom's picture on the same thread.

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Old 02-27-2017, 08:46 PM   #5
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I think you have the wrong brake carrier.

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Old 02-27-2017, 08:51 PM   #6
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X2...the back plates look very different...
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Old 02-27-2017, 08:57 PM   #7
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Here is a picture from Brattons catalog....I tried to rotate it but it will only post upright...
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Old 02-27-2017, 09:30 PM   #8
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Now that i see the pics side by side, I forgot about that lever arm.
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Old 02-27-2017, 09:34 PM   #9
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yeah, I got Toms pic last week and been racking my brain for days....I did it just like Tom but it just doesnt line up like that. No area for one of the springs his way. Not that his way is wrong because it works on his carrier. Mine says "R" and it was a whole package deal, just assemble....I dont know
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Old 02-27-2017, 09:40 PM   #10
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Looks to me that you have the brake system mounted 90degrees from where it is supposed to be. Look where it is on Tom's relative to the four mounting holes and the flat side of the recess around the center.
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Old 02-27-2017, 09:42 PM   #11
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Bill and I posted at about the same time..

Look at the four carrier mounting holes around the axle.

On your carrier the riveted support for the band is one hole away from the center flat section..

On Tom's and Brattons it is two holes away..


Could the backplates be miss-marked? Right is really left?
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Old 02-27-2017, 09:43 PM   #12
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You have the opposite side carrier than the one Tom has posted. Put the horse shoe in the opposite way and it will fit the other side. At least that is what it looks like to me.
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Old 02-27-2017, 09:49 PM   #13
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what you have is a right side ( passenger) side e-brake carrier plate. The "C' lever is reproduction. It needs to be installed on the passenger side and the "C" needs to be flipped to be in proper position for that side. The passenger side large tab boss on the e-brake carrier plate should be at 10 o'clock position for the passenger side and 2 o'clock for the drivers side.
Make sure you install the 2 e-brake springs to hold the band tight and then of course put the lever on and the outer lever spring, woodruff key, bolts, etc.

I think after you get it installed properly and orientate the "C" you will be fine.
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Old 02-27-2017, 09:51 PM   #14
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I'll try that...but the "R" means right which means passenger correct? I ordered one for the Left that just cam in today and haven't looked at it yet...this is getting interesting.

Yes, the horse shoe the other way fits like a glove and springs all match but key for lever is not in right area so maybe it is mis-stamped...I'll finish this steering box and get back to that shortly...thanks for all the pointers! My rear spring comes in this week so "Rusty" should be driving around the yard for testing soon. The e-brakes are slowing me down so much I might just use a block of wood under the tire and for go them all together....LOL
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Here are the three pictures rotated.
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Old 02-27-2017, 10:03 PM   #16
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Beauford.. don;'t forgo the emergency brake.. that would be a Mistake. You have the drums off.. it's an easy fix. Be patient. As I said you have the right side ( Passenger) and "R". the e-brake levers on the inside are the same left or right. The outside levers are of course left or right.
I'm confident you can do it and get it right. Be patient and persistent.
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Old 02-27-2017, 10:20 PM   #17
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Just Joking Larry...I'm OCD so I will stay up all night to get it right. HAHAHAHA

Yes BillLee!! great graphic! I had it the other way but trust Tom's way. I guess its the wrong side. At least the steering box is done....just rear ebrakes and rods now.
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Old 02-27-2017, 10:27 PM   #18
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Look at the angle of the lever at the bottom of the C link. It's quite a bit more into the applied position than my picture. It looks like you need to pull the ends of the parking brake band tighter to the carrier plate, but I don't know that it will be enough to bring the lever angle to match mine. Your C link must be a repro part, as I've never seen a stamped steel with curved edges part before.
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Old 02-27-2017, 10:33 PM   #19
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yes Tom repo...I've tried to get it the way yours is but the horseshoe will only work in other direction....off to try it on the other side...what a nightmare. I could be putting on hubs a wheels....
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Old 02-27-2017, 11:00 PM   #20
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I think part of the problem is you say yours is R for right (passengers side) and the one
in Tom's picture is on the drivers side.

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