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I suppose you can't be 100% of anything but I bought them as NOS from 3rd Gen and they still had the old ford tags on them. I got them in I had to heat up and straighten the big pipe. Yes, I realize that red muffler is not stock style, that was what was on it when I bought it, I think I can make it all work. I suppose in a perfect world the pipes should not be rubbing against the frame but that seems impossible to accomplish here.