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Originally Posted by 1oldtimer
Can an S10 4x4 work as well as a Jeep?.
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Originally Posted by JSeery
There is a lot of information on this topic on the HAMB. Believe the major difference is the S10 4x4 is a longer case than the jeep case.
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We don't need no charming H.A.M.B. for this info. We've got it covered right here....INFO and PICS!
1oldtimer …..If you're not familiar with the project that fellow 'Barner
Heard and myself did to marry a T5 to a Ford torque tube some time back, click on this link below for the comprehensive thread on how we developed and accomplished such an adaptation.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...T5+TORQUE+TUBE
To answer your question about using the S-10 4X4 rear housing and main shaft instead of the Jeep counterparts.....the S-10 takes-up a whole lot more real estate. I'll try, using pictures below, to illustrate some of the important details to consider IF using the LONGER S-10 set-up.
ALL T5 main cases are 9-1/4" long, measured between front and rear faces. Using the JEEP rear housing allows you to assemble the absolute shortest length T5 possible using ALL Borg-Warner factory parts. In fact, we believe that this concoction we've come-up with is actually a transmission that Borg-Warner never intended to be. Most-importantly, every inch of "short" that you can gain in an old Ford chassis is almost priceless when it comes to that transmission/X-member area. The JEEP extension housing is exactly 6" from it's front to it's rear face. I've measured the S-10 extension housings, and the exact measurement escapes me, but going by the pictures below, it seems like it's about 10-1/2" front to rear. The S-10 housing is LONGER than the T5 MAIN case itself.
The first picture below shows a mock-up of our T5 with Jeep rear extension housing sitting behind an 8BA Ford flathead in a 1935 Ford chassis. Note how wide the rear flange is on the rear side of the housing, and how relatively little of the Ford "X" member lip needed to be trimmed to fit. Now try to picture the S-10 housing at 4-1/2" FARTHER back in the chassis (at about the 3-3/4" mark on tape), and how little of the "X" frame flanging would be left in tact. In addition, the majority of the Ford's structural center box section would have to be gutted for fitting. Not only would this compromise strength and integrity, but it would make mounting the stock Ford front WISHBONE ball very difficult, at best. The Jeep parts (only the '82-'86 CJ extension housing, the accompanying main shaft, plus the SMALLER Jeep 23-spline, 26-tooth O/D gear) are a little difficult to round-up, but they're out there. ALL of these parts combine with and bolt to a commonly-found '83-'87 Camaro NWC T5 (or any T5 case) like we used, which has that sweet, close ratio 2.95 1st gear set. You couldn't MAKE me use the S-10 parts, although they MAY be a little easier to round-up. Any questions.....please ask away! DD
Short (6" long) Jeep housing on rear of Camaro T5 transmission gear case. The 6" case stops at the 8-1/4" mark on the tape. The rest is aluminum adapter and '36 Ford torque-tube-bell clam shell adapter.
T5 main case with S-10 housing below....rear housing (left side) is longer than the T5 main case.
S-10 Bare Housing.
OUR Little Short JEEP T5 Complete
And With Torque Tube and U-Joint Hook-Up
Finally, the Little Short 6" JEEP Bare Extension Housing.
In this Last Picture, you can see how much of the Center Box Section we were able to retain, allowing easy and substantial Wishbone retention. The S-10 Rear Housing would have made most of what you see MUCH more involved.
Don't forget to click the link toward the beginning of this post to see our complete project with many more pictures. OR, just click on the "
T5 W/TORQUE TUBE " below, left! DD
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