[PeteVS]

Yes, I'm using LOCKHEED brakes. They're "late" style without the bottom adjusters. I'm sorry about any confusion there. I got a pair of new MT drums and I sent a set of old Lockheed shoes out as cores and I got a set of shoes with new lining. I don't know if the shoes I got were relined old shoes or totally new shoes. I remember reading to stay away from the "new" shoes that don't require providing cores to reline. Most of my brake experience is with cars with Bendix brakes. The Lockheed system of adjusting seems a bit barbaric to me. I can't really see what's going on with the adjusters. I figured that the best way to get them "loosest" would be to go all the way tight (drums off) and then go a bit further and the shoes would drop back to full loose. I have a lot to learn. Thanks all!