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Dang, I forgot, this is a thread about oil. I normally use Valvoline 10/30. I've never cared for penzoil. I'm really not sure why, maybe it's the yellow can. Prof. please forgive me for dropping the .. (Leave it up to a lawyer to get hung up on the details) Oh and you might be interested in knowing that I don't pick my nose. I do a correct and proper "farmer blow" then give my nose a quick clean off, wipe it on my overalls and I'm ready to go. What kind of animal "picks" their nose?