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MrTube 07-31-2012 01:11 PM

What was an "improved road"
 

Though this isn't directly related to "A"s I feel it is automotive history.

On a 1903 map from my town I found the road we lived on is listed as an "improved road".

Did that mean compacted stone? Concrete?

al's28/33 07-31-2012 01:54 PM

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anything better than mud and rutts. it was probably graded and treated to withstand more traffic or better uphold heavy winters.

J Franklin 07-31-2012 02:06 PM

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Trace, trail, path, lane, road, improved road, macadam road, boulevard, highway, parkway, freeway. Did I miss any?

Patrick L. 07-31-2012 02:35 PM

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I always thought it meant that any kind of work/labor was involved.. It could be graded[ A friend has a horse drawn grader with an 1880 date on it], stoned, brick or even corduroy ..

29FordGuy 07-31-2012 02:42 PM

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I am sure that in 1903 an "improved" road referred to a macadam road or similar. A macadam at that time consisted of graded, broken rock placed in layers to properly drain moisture and distribute the load from the carriage wheels (horseless or otherwise). The surface was typically compacted and smoothed with a roller or by just traffice in some cases. These rock surfaces were very durable with the slow moving vehicles of that time and were a far cry better than the often muddy roads. There were several macadam roads in the late 1800s like the Cumberland Road. Tar or asphalt was not generally used as a binder until the 1920s. As vehicles drove faster they would kick up a lot of dust from the macadam roads and create pot holes so the tar and asphalt binder allowed for faster moving traffic without destroying the road surface. Hope this helps. I think it is interesting to see what our grandparents etc. drove on. Mine drove their Model T touring from Iowa to California in the early 1920s probably on a lot of mud and dirt roads, but some macadam roads or other improved roads.

ctlikon0712 07-31-2012 03:26 PM

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29fordguy, that was a good explanation, Thanks.

RcT 07-31-2012 03:59 PM

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In the world of civil engineering, the term "Street Improvement Plans" is still used to describe those plans that show a plan view of the road, indicating the geometrics of the layout and grades, and then a section through the road, both transversly and longitudinally, indicating underground utilities, etc.

An "Improved Road" can mean anything better than two wagon wheel paths on a cleared space. Macadam (asphalt), conrete, brick, cobbles, anything better than plain dirt.

Richard

J Franklin 07-31-2012 04:50 PM

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a macadam road

Minn-Tex Lee 07-31-2012 05:37 PM

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In New Zeland rock roads are (were) refered to as Metal roads -- go figure

Roadster62 07-31-2012 06:19 PM

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I would think an "improved road" in 1903 was concrete and only a few miles out of town. Most likely the work of lobbying by bicycle owners, they were the first ones to get the improved road building system started. Bob http://connecticuthistory.org/the-le...to-good-roads/
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Originally Posted by MrTube (Post 471060)
Though this isn't directly related to "A"s I feel it is automotive history.

On a 1903 map from my town I found the road we lived on is listed as an "improved road".

Did that mean compacted stone? Concrete?


BILL WILLIAMSON 07-31-2012 09:46 PM

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Chief worked for the W.P.A. and "improved" roads just by haulin' & spredin' gravel over red clay! Perfect windshields were an oddity! Bill W.

Steve Wastler 07-31-2012 10:30 PM

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In our local paper, there is a past news column 25, 50, and 100 years ago in every days paper. I read one from 100 years ago briefly describing the new found use of used motor oil applied to the dirt roads thru town center to keep the dust down. :0

Big John 08-01-2012 01:06 PM

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how about a washboard road?

Patrick L. 08-01-2012 02:33 PM

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Washboard roads ?? Take a quick trip into northern Canada..
Used motor oil ?? Its what we put on the rear lot for years,, for 50 anyway.. The front new and used lots were black top..
Speaking of motor oil.. One of the local beaches has been closed for the remainder of the season due to some strange black goopy substance washing onto the shoreline.. I went to look at and mentioned it sure looked to me like crude oil.. They thought I was nutz.. They just found out it was motor oil from the 20s/30s that was put into drums and dumped in the lake..

ldj1002 08-01-2012 04:31 PM

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Well, What was the AL-CAN highway when it was built? When I learned about in school in the 50's I thought it was a super highway. I was kinda surprised about 30 years ago when I found out it was not much better that a trail.

Bruce Adams 08-01-2012 05:05 PM

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The LONG ISLAND MOTOR PARKWAY, a forty-three mile long, limited access, paved road completed in 1908, paid for PERSONALLY by William K Vanderbilt and operating as a toll road, $1 for the forty + miles. It had sedimentary stones contained in the two lanes of TAR, with certain curves BANKED, and barriers placed where needed. This highway had SIXTY-FIVE BRIDGES, thus eliminating intersections. It extended westward in 1920 from mid-Queens to near Queens Blvd, so autos could easily access it from the Queensboro Bridge, completed in 1909. This parkway ended about fifty miles east of Manhattan at Lake Ronkonkoma, Long Island, NY, where Vanderbilt constructed a restaurant/catering hall/ hotel as a terminus for hhis highway. Much of the Parkway is now Suffolk County Road 67, VANDERBILT HIGHWAY, while other portions are abandoned, leaving bridges in backyards and in parking lots and such.

The Motor Parkway is considered the FIRST, LIMITED ACCESS highway built for autos.

Most of NYC was paved, either with cobblestones or, later macadam, a TAR item, though there were also many unpaved roads.

Roadster62 08-01-2012 06:53 PM

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Great info Bruce! If you want to read more you can spend some time on this site. Bob http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/

29FordGuy 08-01-2012 09:25 PM

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And we can not forget the plank road that crossed the Algadones sand dunes in southern California. My dad told me of travelling across that in the 20's before the paved road was built later that decade. We have come a long way in building roads for our wheels!


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