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29FordGuy 07-16-2012 05:43 PM

Loose screw in bell housing
 

Well, my original Bendix threw a bolt and it is now at the bottom of the bell housing. It has for the most part laid there quietly but recently I have had a few loud clunks that sounded like it was beginning to travel around in there. I need to get it out before it does damage to the flywheel or clutch. That would not be good! I have fished from the access hole on top but no luck. I have not yet taken off the starter to see if I can access it from there. I know this has happened to others - any pointers? Thanks!

Duffy1 07-16-2012 05:55 PM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

29fordguy

There are a number of threads on this topic . Do a search and you will find many different ways to get the bolt out. Did you go back original or did you get a modern type bendix ?

29FordGuy 07-16-2012 06:09 PM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

Thanks, I will try that. I do remember seeing some recently but I don't remember seeing any 'how to' advise. I will do search. I installed a new original and kept the old one for a spare (with new bolts and lock tabs installed). I remember reading several threads about the modern type that gave heartburn.

Art Bjornestad 07-16-2012 06:25 PM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

I am running 2 new starter drives and have seen many years of trouble free service. I have broken quite a few bendix springs and bolts over the same time in flatheads and would never put an old style drive into anything. Art

Georgew48 07-16-2012 06:49 PM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

When it happened to me, I removed the starter and through the starter hole I used a piece of electric fence wire with my magnet necklace taped to it to fish out the bolt. Worked like a charm because I could bent the wire to match the curve of the bell housing and the necklace taped to the wire provided the magnet. I tried using a long magnet tiped tool but could not get it to curve around the bell housing enough to get to the bottom.

TK in LA 07-16-2012 06:55 PM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

I've used a small magnet with a hole in it, kind of like the ones on the bottom of a clip that you put on the fridge to hold papers. Wrap a piece of find bailing wire to the magnet and drop it down the clutch/throwout bearing inspection hole. It may take a couple of ties but that should get it out along with a bunch of pieces from previously broken Bendix spring retainers. Kind of like ice fishing.
Good luck!

kingbee 07-16-2012 07:42 PM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

As an aside, that happened to me. Had some crunching and banging around, then BAM! Totally locked up the engine. There was absolutely no way to free the engine, so ended up pulling it. Found the screw wedged between the flywheel housing and the ring gear. Interestingly, it was not my bolt, but a previous owner's, as both my bolts were still in place. It was in there for thousands of miles before it decided to ruin my day.

Bob Johnson 07-16-2012 08:07 PM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

I use a magnet which I stick onto the flywheel. Then I rotate the engine and the bolt is picked up by the magnet. Here is a video showing how I do it.

www.modelahouse.com/movies/bolt.wmv


Bob

Bruce_MO 07-16-2012 09:02 PM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

Yep...use a strong magnet that you stick to the flywheel and then turn the engine over slowly with the crank. You can usually hear the faint sound of the loose bolt getting caught and picked up by the magnet.

I bought a set of very strong magnets at Home Depot, as I recall. They were about 1/2" in diameter and about 1/4" tall.

Afordman31 07-16-2012 10:52 PM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Johnson (Post 462364)
I use a magnet which I stick onto the flywheel. Then I rotate the engine and the bolt is picked up by the magnet. Here is a video showing how I do it.

www.modelahouse.com/movies/bolt.wmv


Bob

Thanks Bob for the video.

29FordGuy 07-16-2012 11:45 PM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

Hey guys, thanks for all the helpful suggestions. I will do the magnet on the flywheel trick later this week. Looks so easy and I have some strong magnets that should work good. The video was especially helpful Bob, thanks.

Bob Johnson 07-16-2012 11:52 PM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

I forgot to point out that I tied a string to the magnet. If the magnet somehow gets off of the flywheel I can reverse rotation of the flywheel and use the string to help get the magnet out.

Bob

Jerry Parr WI 07-17-2012 09:46 AM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

The danger is a bolt trapped between the flywheel and the bell housing breaking the bell housing. I had one trapped between the flywheel and housing that even with the engine out could not be removed until I took off the flywheel. In addition to the problem bolt this collection was left in the housing by previous owners of the car.

http://www.mwt.net/%7Ejparr/Pictures...er%20Bolts.jpg

29FordGuy 07-17-2012 01:26 PM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

Wow, that is impressive. Quite a collection of junk. I know mine only has the one screw and lock washer. I just hope mine is resting quietly on the bottom where I can pick it up with a magnet. I don't want to drive it until I get the thing out!

BILL WILLIAMSON 07-17-2012 02:17 PM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

Did someone once suggest to put a LARGE glob of wheel bearing grease on the outside of flywheel & rotate the engine?? Bill W.

Farrell In Vancouver 07-17-2012 04:54 PM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

http://forums.aa-fords.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3371

I had a neat one a while ago.........

29FordGuy 07-31-2012 12:21 AM

Re: Loose screw in bell housing
 

I wanted to update this thread with my latest success. I tried the magnet trick using the only magnets I had around. I first tried an old AlNiCo magnet from a coin vending machine but it was too big and ran into the housing. Then I went down to Radio Shack and bought some ceramic magnets but they did not have enough pull. I tore apart a small magnet on a stick but still did not get anything. So I decided to go with the big guns. I ordered a neodymium magnet ring. I received it today, snapped it on the flywheel and rotated it with the crank until I heard that sweet sound of the screw attaching to the magnet. Low and behold I picked up the bolt as well as the locking washer. Success!! To everyone that offered suggestions, thanks for all your help. Drove the ol' A around this evening and no clunk anymore. What a relief!!!


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