How many are left?
 

This may have been asked before, but how many model a's are still out there? Are there any real numbers or guesstimates?

Re: How many are left?
 

Doesn't MAFCA figure 250,000 US? Assuming that means "non Hot/Rat Rod" A's.

Re: How many are left?
 

I have read numbers ranging from 250,000 to 400,000. Who really knows? How many are tucked away, unregistered or whatever?

Re: How many are left?
 

That has to be an impossible thing to quantify. Interesting to think about but impossible to ever know. Too bad all the state DVM's weren't a govenment agency and could actually help you, they could get all the registered Model A's into one data base.....but then again who really wants state or federal government to really know that much about you (us)?? Less is more in that instance.

Re: How many are left?
 

They sure seem common 80 years after they have been built! A testiment to how great they are? :)

Re: How many are left?
 

i would say alot.:rolleyes:

Re: How many are left?
 

Strange as it may sound, I doubt everyone could agree on exactly what counts as a "Model A". One approach is you could go strictly by registrations, so if the owner calls it a Model A and the state agrees it's a Model A, it must be one. But, there are many cars registered as Model A's that no one would ever mistake for something that rolled off Henry's assembly line - and that's not limited to hot rods either. Also, that approach ignores the many actual Model A's that are not registered for whatever reason.

Here's some questions that need to be answered before you can begin to count them:

How many Model A parts do you need to make it a car, and on the other hand, exactly how many parts can you remove or modify from a Model A before it isn't one anymore? For example, does a Model A chassis with an engine count as a Model A or are they just parts?

Is there any single part or group of parts that identify a car as a Model A to the exclusion of any other car? Or does it simply need more than half Model A parts? What if it's more than 50% reproduction or fabricated parts instead? What if it has all Model A parts but they are cobbled together to create a car unlike any Model A that was ever built?

Let's say one criteria is that it has to be a drivable car. If you have a disassembled Model A in the middle of a restoration, is it still a Model A or just a pile of Model A parts? Most people would probably agree it should be counted as a Model A, but what if it's never reassembled?

Are all of these Model A's or aren't they? I don't think I could say for sure in all cases. It seems like no matter how you try to define what a Model A is, there are exceptions that break it. Which is why counting them is so difficult.

Re: How many are left?
 

I asked this once.

Here is the link: https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32283

Keep them as original as possible!... or revive (restore/period hotrod) what is ready for the scraper (I have enough toasters).

Re: How many are left?
 

Dave makes a good point. I have seen several "Model A" rat rods that the only original Model A piece is the title.

Re: How many are left?
 

Seth i couldn't have stated it better...'That has to be an impossible thing to quantify. Interesting to think about but impossible to ever know. Too bad all the state DVM's weren't a govenment agency and could actually help you, they could get all the registered Model A's into one data base.....but then again who really wants state or federal government to really know that much about you (us)?? Less is more in that instance.'

I, too, am worried about a government agency checking the number of Model A's left. To avoid the long arm of government I am keeping most of my A's in pieces.

Re: How many are left?
 

I have 1 AA 1929 CCPU that im restoring but got to get a title for it. so its not even on the map of being one.

Re: How many are left?
 

I would be inclined to take the numbers provided by the insurance company's as the most accurate count of drivable Model A's. This would eliminate rat rods and a lot hot rods that may be registered as special built or kit cars.