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Ziggster 04-06-2026 03:53 PM

What kind of Wide Five Drum is this?
 

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Someone local is selling parts, and a chassis. This wheel/drum was on the rear axle. What is it? I’ve never seen anything like it before.

nelsb01 04-06-2026 04:28 PM

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Well, it looks like a 1936-1939 Ford rim with beauty ring. Not sure about the hub it is attached to.

You could look around the inner ring and see if you can find the date stamp (ex 7 15 36). That would let you know what year it was made. There is also a Ford script stamped it.

Brian 04-06-2026 04:32 PM

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1936 open drum

Ziggster 04-06-2026 04:41 PM

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I just saw some for sale on FB but they’re now gone, but it didn’t look like the one in the pic. Were there big differences between the front and rear open drums?

nelsb01 04-06-2026 04:57 PM

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Yes -- the front drum has a large opening for the front spindle where the rear drum has a small opening due to the rear axle. Note the drums should be solid, although some early production 1936 had the open drum 'spider' drums.

1936 drum would have 3 rings around the outer edge of the drum. 1937-1939 only have one ring.

mercman from oz 04-06-2026 05:11 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1775513389

Australian 1936 Ford Roadster Ute with front rear "spider" drums.

cas3 04-06-2026 05:28 PM

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like this. quite rare.

mercman from oz 04-06-2026 05:50 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1775514526

1938 Ford Spider Brake Drums

Ziggster 04-06-2026 06:22 PM

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Ok. Thanks! I have 37 wide five drums, and I’ve seen open drums like the one on the lower right, but never seen the one in the lower left. Cool!

Ziggster 04-06-2026 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mercman from oz (Post 2445954)
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1775513389

Australian 1936 Ford Roadster Ute with front rear "spider" drums.

Wow! That looks so cool! Thanks for sharing!

34fordy 04-06-2026 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cas3 (Post 2445958)
like this. quite rare.

Does the drum on the lower left accommodate either a wide 5 or an earlier spoke wheel?

Ziggster 04-06-2026 06:43 PM

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I found the FB ad for the open drums.

cas3 04-06-2026 07:12 PM

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those are not the same, they are 3 rib 35, solid one piece. the others in my photo, and on the chassis are early 36

cas3 04-06-2026 07:28 PM

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34 fordy, I do not know if it takes either wheel. I don't think so, but never measured. That drum is now in Sweden on Lars's 34 roadster

34fordy 04-06-2026 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cas3 (Post 2445974)
34 fordy, I do not know if it takes either wheel. I don't think so, but never measured. That drum is now in Sweden on Lars's 34 roadster

That sure looks like it could be a 5 on 5-1/2 Clayton. However the step to support the spoke wheel doesn't appear to have the little flat area at the edge. My lathe is only 10" so I couldn't get it in the chuck to take care of it anyway. Wouldn't that be great if you could go forth and back with different wheels? That would be a heck of a hunt for four hen's teeth in a bale of hay, huh? LOL

cas3 04-06-2026 11:32 PM

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I think its a bolt on to make either the hub or drum replaceable if need be. Imagine there is probably some NOS drums around that nobody knows what they fit!

This one was really good on drum wear, only .15 or so, but the hub had sat outside for decades and wrecked the bearing surface. Lars had a plan to re-machine the hub to take a different bearing. He has a beautiful old school 34 highboy roadster. He's a member here...perhaps will chime in

BlueNotes 04-07-2026 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 34fordy (Post 2445979)
That sure looks like it could be a 5 on 5-1/2 Clayton. However the step to support the spoke wheel doesn't appear to have the little flat area at the edge. My lathe is only 10" so I couldn't get it in the chuck to take care of it anyway. Wouldn't that be great if you could go forth and back with different wheels? That would be a heck of a hunt for four hen's teeth in a bale of hay, huh? LOL


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Originally Posted by cas3 (Post 2445989)
I think its a bolt on to make either the hub or drum replaceable if need be. Imagine there is probably some NOS drums around that nobody knows what they fit! This one was really good on drum wear, only .15 or so, but the hub had sat outside for decades and wrecked the bearing surface. Lars had a plan to re-machine the hub to take a different bearing. He has a beautiful old school 34 highboy roadster. He's a member here...perhaps will chime in



Don and Clayton,
The first one is a two piece bolt on drum, but it's not possible to use the early 5x5-1/2 spoke wheel on it. I have no source to confirm it, but I believe this drum may have been used only as a temporary carry over design for final use of excess stock of 1932-35 rear wheel brake drum hubs with the large 1928-35 wheel bearing (B-1225-A) on the early 1936 produced cars. The second drum is a one piece cast drum with a sleeve bearing race for the smaller 1936-48 wheel bearing (68-1225-A). This drum was also only used in early 1936 production and then later superseeded by the common 1936-39 wide five rear drums we see all over. Maybe it was superseeded for cost and/or quality reasons because I believe it's easier and less expensive to cast the later rear 1936-39 drums.
//Lars

cas3 04-07-2026 09:45 AM

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Thank you Lars. That rear drum I sold you is the only one I've ever seen. Never have seen a front, like on the ute above. How did you fix the bearing issue?

Show us a pic of your roadster!

petehoovie 04-07-2026 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueNotes (Post 2446021)
Don and Clayton,
The first one is a two piece bolt on drum, but it's not possible to use the early 5x5-1/2 spoke wheel on it. I have no source to confirm it, but I believe this drum may have been used only as a temporary carry over design for final use of excess stock of 1932-35 rear wheel brake drum hubs with the large 1928-35 wheel bearing (B-1225-A) on the early 1936 produced cars. The second drum is a one piece cast drum with a sleeve bearing race for the smaller 1936-48 wheel bearing (68-1225-A). This drum was also only used in early 1936 production and then later superseeded by the common 1936-39 wide five rear drums we see all over. Maybe it was superseeded for cost and/or quality reasons because I believe it's easier and less expensive to cast the later rear 1936-39 drums.
//Lars

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...7&d=1775569729

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...8&d=1775569729

Kube 04-07-2026 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cas3 (Post 2445989)
I think its a bolt on to make either the hub or drum replaceable if need be. Imagine there is probably some NOS drums around that nobody knows what they fit!

This one was really good on drum wear, only .15 or so, but the hub had sat outside for decades and wrecked the bearing surface. Lars had a plan to re-machine the hub to take a different bearing. He has a beautiful old school 34 highboy roadster. He's a member here...perhaps will chime in

.15" is well beyond trash.


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