Stuck rear drums on 33 Vicky 1 Attachment(s)
New member here. I'm trying to get my late father-in-law's '33 back on the road.
It has sat for a long time in his garage. I've done the fuel tank, lines, and fuel pump. She runs like a top, BUT stopping is another story. He has converted it to hydraulic brakes some time in the past, but I'm not sure what they are from. There are 5 screws between the studs. Could this be a separate drum/hub combo? I'm to the point of trying to remove it, that it is actually picking the car up from the Jack stand that I'm using to keep the axle from rotating. It is supported by others underneath. The screws are really dug in, and I don't want to damage the drum or screws by going further. The castle nut is on strictly for protection when the drum does pop off. There is plenty of space. Any ideas or advice is appreciated. Thanks! |
Re: Stuck rear drums on 33 Vicky Humm... looking at your photo I am thinking that those screws when removed would free up the drum to slip it off... I'd be trying that if in your shoes.
But, I have never seen a setup like that so wait on other responses first. :) |
Re: Stuck rear drums on 33 Vicky Kind of a weird setup . . . though it still looks to have original tapered axles, so my guess is that those screws are to hold the drum onto the flange of the hub. It would probably not hurt to take the screws out - as the worst that can happen is the hub pulls off and the drum stays. I would make a mark as to where the drum is indexed to the hub - as the drums were probably turned after they were mounted.
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Re: Stuck rear drums on 33 Vicky Many modern rotors are held to the hub by tapered head screws. Maybe slotted head screws these are doing the same thing?
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Re: Stuck rear drums on 33 Vicky I would try an impact screwdriver on those, the shock might loosen them.
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Re: Stuck rear drums on 33 Vicky I believe a KR Wilson or Vintage Precision puller would do the "trick." A good puller is needed for the tough ones!
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Re: Stuck rear drums on 33 Vicky Have you backed the brake shoes away from the ID of the drum?
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Re: Stuck rear drums on 33 Vicky It is lifting because of the way you are trying to stop the rotation. Use a long lever or make a tool to stop the rotation. A long piece of angle bolted to the studs for example. Leave the screws. Use the tool as normal to pull the whole hub and drum assembly. If it binds after the initial pop then back off the brakes.
Make sure the nut is backed off. A photo of the setup without the puller on might be useful. Once off you might find nuts on the back of the screws. Mart. |
Re: Stuck rear drums on 33 Vicky Also, sometimes it helps to heat up the area of the drum where the taper resides.
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Re: Stuck rear drums on 33 Vicky I can't tell, are thee drums over the hub, or behind the hub? No matter, I agree with mart, take the whole thing off the axle. for the screws, when you heat a piece of steel, it expands. When it cools, it shrinks to smaller than it original size. So...heat the screw head to red hot carefully to not melt or distort the slot, then let it cool completely and it should come loose.
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Re: Stuck rear drums on 33 Vicky the drum is behind the hub removing the screws will not help help. there is onley one puller for the ford . KR WILSON. by one there expensive but they work the other ones you see dont come close. when your done you can sell the puller & get most of your money back
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Re: Stuck rear drums on 33 Vicky dont know what tooling you have access to but had like problems when i removed mine for the 1st time 1 leave the nut on the axle this will keep the thread in condition and stop it crushing the splitpin hole just make sure the hub has about an1/8 of an inch to move 2 keep as much pressure on the tool as you dare then with a hammer and soft[brass] drift give the hub several good whacks between the collar and plate I have access to an air hammer with a hammer bit worked wonders
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There is NOT "only one puller for Ford". Vintage Precision make "THE" best puller on the market. As Richard Crow stated, They are expensive....BUT the expense of the Vintage Precision becomes very reasonable the first time you use it....THEN you realize the worth of what you just bought!!! NONE better IMHO. |
Re: Stuck rear drums on 33 Vicky rockfla am i wrong. but i think vintage precision makes the exact copy of the wilson
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