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Tim Ayers 08-17-2022 09:27 AM

Is it worth saving an empty trans case and bell housing?
 

I recently took in some parts. In the stash, was a model A trans. I offered it for sale complete, but had no takers. I took the gears out and sold them.

My space is limited and my question is it worth saving the empty case, top, & bellhousing? All parts are greasy, but rather nice. The case seems perfect.

I was planning on bringing them to Hershey and selling them cheaply, but I'd rather not lug around stuff that isn't going to sell.

Thoughts?

Please note, I hate scrapping parts, but I'm also a realist and want to avoid an ever increasing parts stash.

alexiskai 08-17-2022 10:26 AM

Re: Is it worth saving an empty trans case and bell housing?
 

I'm told it's rare to find a bell housing that isn't cracked, so if yours is in good shape, there's a market for it.

old ugly 08-17-2022 10:44 AM

Re: Is it worth saving an empty trans case and bell housing?
 

i think the tranny case if it is the later style would be a core for the place that does the syncro conversions. fyi the later style case would have had no shims on the cluster gear.

i have given lots of stuff away because it is too hard to deal with idiots over a low priced item.
i advertise and then sit stuff in the alley. first come first serve. i don't like wasting my time over a two bit item either.

that way the stuff gets used and doesnt impact me.

Tim Ayers 08-17-2022 10:49 AM

Re: Is it worth saving an empty trans case and bell housing?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexiskai (Post 2158066)
I'm told it's rare to find a bell housing that isn't cracked, so if yours is in good shape, there's a market for it.

Thank you. Can you tell me where they generally crack so I can look?

Tim Ayers 08-17-2022 10:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by old ugly (Post 2158074)
i think the tranny case if it is the later style would be a core for the place that does the syncro conversions. fyi the later style case would have had no shims on the cluster gear.

i have given lots of stuff away because it is too hard to deal with idiots over a low priced item.
i advertise and then sit stuff in the alley. first come first serve. i don't like wasting my time over a two bit item either.

that way the stuff gets used and doesnt impact me.

Thank you. It is the later style then. It had no shims.

alexiskai 08-17-2022 10:55 AM

Re: Is it worth saving an empty trans case and bell housing?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Ayers (Post 2158077)
Thank you. Can you tell me where they generally crack so I can look?

I'm sorry, turns out it's the flywheel housing that frequently cracks. Never mind. :)

Tim Ayers 08-17-2022 10:58 AM

Re: Is it worth saving an empty trans case and bell housing?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexiskai (Post 2158080)
I'm sorry, turns out it's the flywheel housing that frequently cracks. Never mind. :)


I may not be calling to the right thing. The part I am calling a "bell housing" is the part that bolts to the front of the trans, the pedals hang on them from the shaft and it has the cross shaft for the clutch release.

In the Model A world, is that the flywheel housing? I'm a V8 guy, so I'm still learning Model A's.

katy 08-17-2022 11:14 AM

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A empty transmission case makes a good doorstop.

Tim Ayers 08-17-2022 11:15 AM

Re: Is it worth saving an empty trans case and bell housing?
 

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Originally Posted by katy (Post 2158089)
A empty transmission case makes a good doorstop.

Haha. Is a good complete top worth lugging around?

alexiskai 08-17-2022 11:20 AM

Re: Is it worth saving an empty trans case and bell housing?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Ayers (Post 2158082)
I may not be calling to the right thing. The part I am calling a "bell housing" is the part that bolts to the front of the trans, the pedals hang on them from the shaft and it has the cross shaft for the clutch release.

Yeah, that's the bell housing. The flywheel housing has the engine mount surfaces on each side and a hole for the starter. It's part of the engine, it wouldn't be on a transmission.

Tim Ayers 08-17-2022 11:24 AM

Re: Is it worth saving an empty trans case and bell housing?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexiskai (Post 2158095)
Yeah, that's the bell housing. The flywheel housing has the engine mount surfaces on each side and a hole for the starter. It's part of the engine, it wouldn't be on a transmission.

Got it. Thank you. Are bell housings worth selling cheap or is it scrap fodder?

J Franklin 08-17-2022 12:10 PM

Re: Is it worth saving an empty trans case and bell housing?
 

If you are thinking of scrapping it, why not just offer it free to the hobby? There should be someone wanting the parts. Mitchell overdrive company is the one that may need the trans case.

jak 08-17-2022 01:46 PM

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I cannot tell you how many transmission cases and bell housing's i've sent to the scrapper. They are like rabbits every collection i buy has 2,3,4 or more of each. I pick through them and keep the best to try sell them to anybody looking. But even at that i have a stack of bell housings 3-4 feet tall and at least one pallet of empty transmission cases. Even trying to give them away i've had no luck. And because of the weight and the size of the box required nobody wants to pay the shipping.

ronn 08-17-2022 02:46 PM

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scrap it Tim. I tried giving away a complete rear, drums brakes and all-guy only wtd a certain model/year. yes it was free.
got 20. at the syracuse scrapper. didnt want to do it, but dont have 3 yrs to sell it.....

jack backer 08-17-2022 02:48 PM

Re: Is it worth saving an empty trans case and bell housing?
 

Hold a flywheel housing with one finger, tap it with a wrench if it rings it’s good, if it clanks it’s cracked.

Empty A case and bellhousing? nobody pays up for anything…don’t agonize,scrap it

daveymc29 08-17-2022 04:02 PM

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Try Mitchell's in Williams, CA. The want a core for building the syncro tranny. Sure they'd like to have it if it is good, the tower also maybe?

I have stitched up a few of the flywheel covers. Not sure how good they were but the didn't ring like an uncracked one. If yours will ring when suspended on a wire and gently struch with a wrench that should indicate no cracks. New ones are around $500. If throwing away, bear that in mind. Points restorer guys like originals. (Cracked ones make a "thus" sound, no ring.

JBill 08-17-2022 04:40 PM

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I only discard Model A parts if I know they are being reproduced by reputable folks, and even then only when they are in very rough condition. Pretty sure bell housings and trans cases are not! Someday someone might be very glad to have them.

Tim Ayers 08-17-2022 06:28 PM

Re: Is it worth saving an empty trans case and bell housing?
 

If I get time to de-grease them, I'll bring them to Hershey. I'll ask $5.00 a piece. Of course, everything is negotiable at Hershey. :D

Synchro909 08-17-2022 07:42 PM

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I makes me cry to hear you guys telling someone to scrap those things. I grab every part, even gearbox cases and bell housings when I can - especially bell housings. RHD ones are not so easy to find and many are damaged and worn around the A frame ball socket. As for sending a complete rear end to scrap - that would never happen here but for me to even take it for free, it would be expensive by the time I got it home. Why don't you guys move a little closer!!!

Tim Ayers 08-18-2022 08:12 AM

Re: Is it worth saving an empty trans case and bell housing?
 

I'll throw this out there. If anyone wants the case and bellhousing, come pick them up. I'd be happy to pass them along to someone who can use them.


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