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o2bnkc 10-03-2021 01:24 PM

Headlight problems
 

The other night I was coming home (1940 Deluxe, 6 volt, positive ground) and the headlights started flickering off and on. The first thing I thought of was a partially broken wire somewhere. I didn't find a broken wire anywhere, but when I pulled out the switch on the dash and turned it on, the headlight wire became hot to the touch. I've got 6.37 volts coming out of the switch to the headlight wire so I assume the switch is good. Do I have a bare spot somewhere grounding to the car? Electrical is not my strong suite. Thanks.

51 MERC-CT 10-03-2021 03:11 PM

Re: Headlight problems
 

Can be something as simple as dirty bad battery post connections.
Everything else you have to trace.

o2bnkc 10-03-2021 04:31 PM

Re: Headlight problems
 

Now the taillight wire is getting hot. It was smoking the connector by the firewall in the engine compartment When I disconnect it, the headlight wire cools off. With just the parking lights on, the taillights are very bright. With the headlights on, they are pretty dim.

TJ 10-03-2021 04:38 PM

Re: Headlight problems
 

Follow the light wires from the switch all the way to the front and back. Sounds like you have a bare wire touching some metal. If you have an old wire harness it may be time for a new one. '40 has a circuit breaker did you check it to see if it was getting hot?

o2bnkc 10-03-2021 06:47 PM

Re: Headlight problems
 

The current wiring harness was installed in 2012. It seems that both the headlight and taillight wires are overheating when the switch is pulled out. I've traced all the parts of each wire I can see. Where is the circuit breaker?

51 MERC-CT 10-03-2021 07:28 PM

Re: Headlight problems
 

1 Attachment(s)
You can check the lines using the schematic as a reference.
This shows the location of the circuit breaker.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...0&d=1633307278

TJ 10-04-2021 08:47 AM

Re: Headlight problems
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by o2bnkc (Post 2063013)
The current wiring harness was installed in 2012. It seems that both the headlight and taillight wires are overheating when the switch is pulled out. I've traced all the parts of each wire I can see. Where is the circuit breaker?

The circuit breaker is on the inside of the firewall just above the steering column. Also check your dimmer switch as the problem could be there.

19Fordy 10-04-2021 10:31 AM

Re: Headlight problems
 

Be sure to check all the slip in wire connectors that join the wires together

corvette8n 10-04-2021 11:03 AM

Re: Headlight problems
 

Also make sure you have good grounds everywhere, wire brush, file whatever you need to do to get clean, bright, tight grounds.

51 MERC-CT 10-04-2021 11:16 AM

Re: Headlight problems
 

And if you clean all the connections, I have had good luck lightly coating the connections with dielectric grease before reassembly to help keep future corrosion from forming.

4dFord/SC 10-04-2021 04:41 PM

Re: Headlight problems
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJ (Post 2063191)
The circuit breaker is on the inside of the firewall just above the steering column.


Flashing headlights is the 1940 circuit breaker's way of telling you there is a short somewhere.

o2bnkc 10-05-2021 08:27 PM

Re: Headlight problems
 

Thanks for all the suggestions, guys. I don't see anything obvious yet. My dimmer switch is not even hooked into the wiring and I don't see any bare wires yet. Could the light switch itself, be bad?

V8COOPMAN 10-05-2021 11:10 PM

Re: Headlight problems
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by o2bnkc (Post 2063947)
My dimmer switch is not even hooked into the wiring.


IF your dimmer is not even hooked into the headlight circuit (WHY?), how are you dimming headlights? This is obviously not normal, and indicates that someone has screwed with the system. Any other notable anomalies? DD

o2bnkc 10-06-2021 09:11 PM

Re: Headlight problems
 

LOL! I thought you meant the dimmer control on the dashboard lights!! So the foot switch can cause problems?

40cpe 10-06-2021 09:24 PM

Re: Headlight problems
 

Do you know that a 6V harness was used when it was rewired?

o2bnkc 10-06-2021 09:54 PM

Re: Headlight problems
 

I assume it was. The wire cloth coverings match the same color code as the original wiring according to my shop and owners manual. Red/yellow tracers for the headlights and a black wire for the taillights. I can't find a circuit breaker, though. I hooked up the ignition resister when I first got the car, but isn't the circuit breaker supposed to be up there by it? Can the dash switch be bad? That's the only place where the headlight and taillight wires meet up, and they both get hot.

ford38v8 10-06-2021 11:12 PM

Re: Headlight problems
 

The original circuit breaker does not resemble a modern unit, but rather, appears as a simple small black box, mounted on the same rectangular fiberboard as the ignition resistor. You said you hooked up the resistor, so I’m wondering if perhaps the resistor is routed incorrectly to the lighting circuit via the circuit breaker?

V8COOPMAN 10-07-2021 02:49 AM

Re: Headlight problems
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by o2bnkc (Post 2064284)
I assume it was. The wire cloth coverings match the same color code as the original wiring according to my shop and owners manual. Red/yellow tracers for the headlights and a black wire for the taillights. I can't find a circuit breaker, though. I hooked up the ignition resister when I first got the car, but isn't the circuit breaker supposed to be up there by it? Can the dash switch be bad? That's the only place where the headlight and taillight wires meet up, and they both get hot.


They should be mounted on the same board, similar to this. DD


https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.5Q_RMF...r=1.25&pid=1.7

drolston 10-07-2021 12:16 PM

Re: Headlight problems
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19Fordy (Post 2063253)
Be sure to check all the slip in wire connectors that join the wires together

Especially the ones on the frame rail just behind the radiator, on the left/driver side. That bunch is more exposed to getting jostled loose, and to corrosion.

If the dimmer switch is not connected, it may be that someone wired it so that both the high and low headlight beams come on at the same time. That would double the normal current load through the switch, wiring and circuit breaker, probably causing the circuit breaker to cycle and wires to get hot.

V8COOPMAN 10-07-2021 08:18 PM

Re: Headlight problems
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by drolston (Post 2064428)
If the dimmer switch is not connected, it may be that someone wired it so that both the high and low headlight beams come on at the same time.


He finally explained in post #14 that he was referring to the DASHBOARD LIGHTING dimmer (rheostat). DD

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