Head/Stud Removal. It Worked Thanks
 

Got an answer from our Model A guru already but like to know if someone had the same problem.
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I want to remove one stud from the engine (with the head on) to install an original stud for a steering column Red Ball Temperature Gauge from the Boyce Motometer Co.
I have tried to remove it with a double nut but it will not move.

It Worked! Thanks for all your help.


Joop.



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Joop. PM send

Gerard

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Joop, do you have a picture of the end of the Red Ball Temperature guage? The only ones I've seen had a bulb that was mounted in the top radiator hose.

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Here you go Tom


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Have you tried a stud removal tool?
http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/500/555/555-80510.jpg

I'm not 100% sure you'd be able to get a good purchase on the stud with the tool since the head is still in place but it'd be worth a try.

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good vice-grips with sharp jaws would be my bet.

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Snap on Tools makes a set of stud removers of four different sizes that will work on every stud on a Model A. We have used them many times.

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I wonder if you could make an adaptor for the bulb that fits inside the new head stud, so it would fit in the top radiator hose?

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The best stud removal tool is a small, 6 inch, pipe wrench. It grips and does not slip.

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I have seen those but would love to install it the way there were sold.

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But you do understand that the stud only sticks out a 1/2 inch above the head, not much to work with.



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I have tried all of the above and the Snap On stud removal set works the best with the least damage.

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Now I have to find someone who will loan it to me.



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Joop,

Very nice looking gauge !

Not trying to be a wise-guy, but have you tested that gauge / sending unit ?

Seems we only hear about guys guys trying to find repair on dead ones...

As for the stud removal, is another stud location an option ?

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I have a working Red Ball like you show with the special stud but declined to use the stud as I believe the sensor would be to far removed from the actual water to provide an acurate AND timely reading. What I did was, had a friend make a new sensor socket to replace the stud on a lathe. It will accept the sensor and screw into a standard temp. sensor fitting that screws into the block or the radiator hose fitting. It didn't seem to hard to turn one out of hex material. As a poor college student alterative a long time ago, I took a lug stud (same threads as the top of the special stud), drilled it out to allow the sensor bulb to slip in. Then drilled 2 head nuts the same. I then cut the lug stud off it's base and welded the stud, 2 drilled nuts and a third nut together in a stack. This ,in effect, duplicated the top of the special stud and can just be screwed on the stock stud of your choice, it worked but still did not address the remoteness of the sensor to the water. Good luck.

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Hi Frank

I want to put it where it was originally done (the left rear stud)

The gauge works perfect.

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What about welding a nut to the stud, using the quality six point, long, closed end wrench, instead of muscling the wrench, tap it with a sizable hammer. Alternating tapping loose and tapping tight while applying penetrating oil. I have 100% success using this technique on rusted brake bleeders.

GW

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What you need is a collet type stud remover...Snap-on sells an excellent set, expensive but not prohibitive. This grips the actual threads with its own threads and then tightens like a regular collet, resulting in an unbelievably strong grip.
Ford also supplied its own version of this.
This is the absolute unquestioned best known stud puller.

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What Bruce said, I have a set of those and they work very well and no damage to the stud.

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Here is a link to the set: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog

Expensive at $125, but worth it as a mental health measure. If you order from the spare parts list, you can get just the Ford head stud one for under a hundred.