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Kentmac 05-30-2019 12:23 PM

Installing Modern shocks
 

Quick question. When I install modern shocks on the rear of a Model A coupe, would there be any issues if I replace the two rear bolts (crown bolts) with standard bolts and reverse the directions and use lockwasher instead of castle nuts. I am having some problems finding crown bolts.

Roxo 05-30-2019 01:21 PM

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I have recently installed Modern rear shocks were they require using modern bolts in the reverse direction with lock washers. No problems yet. But you do want to check them regularly as you grease to be sure they remain tight.

ryanheacox 05-30-2019 01:29 PM

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If you're really concerned about nuts loosening off check this out.


https://www.nord-lock.com/en-us/nord-lock/

canadian 05-30-2019 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kentmac (Post 1762830)
Quick question. When I install modern shocks on the rear of a Model A coupe, would there be any issues if I replace the two rear bolts (crown bolts) with standard bolts and reverse the directions and use lockwasher instead of castle nuts. I am having some problems finding crown bolts.

if you dont mind , what are you using for rear shocks , I have none and wondering where to start? thanks

Marvin/TN 05-30-2019 03:11 PM

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Use either a steel or fibre self locking nut, they work on airplanes so should be OK for our old Fords. Steel is usually use when there is heat involved.

5lugnuts 05-30-2019 04:12 PM

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I think the bolts from the rear radius rods will work and are available from the suppliers.
That is what I used to attach the brackets for Ken Davis shocks. You can check it out easily.

Terry, NJ 05-30-2019 04:26 PM

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if you dont mind , what are you using for rear shocks , I have none and wondering where to start? thanks

Give Monroe 31069 a look.These are the installations I did in both my coupe and Town Sedan. They are a little stiff, but that helps you to corner.
Terry

CarlG 05-30-2019 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 5lugnuts (Post 1762883)
I think the bolts from the rear radius rods will work and are available from the suppliers.
That is what I used to attach the brackets. You can check it out easily.

This is what I used on my Ken Davis shocks.

CarlG 05-30-2019 06:19 PM

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Roxo 05-30-2019 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by canadian (Post 1762867)
if you dont mind , what are you using for rear shocks , I have none and wondering where to start? thanks

This is what I got off ebay. You don't have to drill holes in the frame.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/28-29-30-31...8AAOSw7NNT2FtZ

burner31 05-30-2019 08:13 PM

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Ken Davis, installed front and rear on my '31 town sedan, rides smoother then my 2012 jeep.

canadian 05-31-2019 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Terry, NJ (Post 1762886)
Give Monroe 31069 a look.These are the installations I did in both my coupe and Town Sedan. They are a little stiff, but that helps you to corner.
Terry

thanks Terry, I have a 29 pickup, no shocks and can get a little unsafe at times.

canadian 05-31-2019 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Roxo (Post 1762937)
This is what I got off ebay. You don't have to drill holes in the frame.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/28-29-30-31...8AAOSw7NNT2FtZ

nice kit, price sounds ok.thanks

bkensinger 05-31-2019 08:02 AM

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I just installed 4 shocks from a well known Model A enthusiast Dick Pirkl. His shock kits directly install front and rear with no drilling or added brackets. They are very hefty and include lifetime warranty gas shocks.
Dick must keep them in stock as I received next day shipping. 4 shocks with front and rear brackets and shipping are about $350.
I installed these after installing a Mitchell overdrive and it makes the Model A Roadster handle like a modern car. 4 working shocks are a must for touring cars.

You can contact Dick here:
Richard Pirkl email:[email protected] phone: 608-575-7433

duke36 05-31-2019 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bkensinger (Post 1763088)
I just installed 4 shocks from a well known Model A enthusiast Dick Pirkl. His shock kits directly install front and rear with no drilling or added brackets. They are very hefty and include lifetime warranty gas shocks.
Dick must keep them in stock as I received next day shipping. 4 shocks with front and rear brackets and shipping are about $350.
I installed these after installing a Mitchell overdrive and it makes the Model A Roadster handle like a modern car. 4 working shocks are a must for touring cars.

You can contact Dick here:
Richard Pirkl email:[email protected] phone: 608-575-7433

Not sure about clamping to the radius rods; aren't some hollow ? Do you know the brand of shocks used?

jax55 05-31-2019 06:13 PM

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I just today finished install the shock kit from ebay mentioned above. I chose it because there was not drilling of the front axle. I have not driven it yet, waiting to get the grease seals for the drums.
The install was pretty straight forward, BUT I would suggest looking at/ printing the user instructions on the internet (search "www.apexinds.com").
The instructions that come with the kit are minimal, both together are pretty good.
There are good tips and the visual helps in determining position of brackets, possible drilling of rear backing plate for new provided bolts.
I found all the fit well, BUT the upper front bracket bolt holes were a little small due to powder coat build up... I just threaded to bolts through the holes to preserve the coating.
Sorry for length of post.

Pete 05-31-2019 06:49 PM

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I have often wondered why PASSENGER CAR shocks are designed to mount upside down.
It is counter to the laws of physics.
Race car shocks mount properly. (body up)

Ruth 05-31-2019 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jax55 (Post 1763257)
Sorry for length of post.

Nothing wrong with the length of your post but I will admit I loose interest about halfway thru longer posts... :p:p

bkensinger 05-31-2019 07:58 PM

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Dick Pirkl shocks are Monroe. Many members of the Model A Club in Madison WI have used these for many years without a problem.

duke36 05-31-2019 10:33 PM

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Mid 60's VW shocks (pure oil , no gas charge) would fit if you have eyelets on both ends. Some variants have one eyelet and link pin on the other end. The gas charged, Monroe, etc. are usually too stiff for an A.


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