Ethanol Defense
 

Anybody use this stuff. Always try to use non ethanol but not always possible.

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Ethanol will work fine in an A but don't let it set for very long.

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I have ethanol free gas delivered to the house. Makes a lot of difference on small engines and outboards. Certainly can tell the difference with much better mileage on the daily drivers and the A’s.

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Ethanol Defense is an additive to counter the effects of using having to use ethanol fuel. I had never heard of it before.

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Sometimes I’m a slow learner...I thought davew was defending the use of ethanol

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Sorry, didn't explain it very well

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Oklahoma is still a free State.
So I choose you use pure gas only.

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Several years ago over here, the Government allowed the addition of up to 10% ethanol in fuel. Most don't use it and straight petrol is readily available everywhere. E10 was sold at 4c a litre less than pure petrol. This discount has been eroded and now stands at about 2c. I did the calculations at 4c cheaper and on an energy for your dollar basis, it still didn't add up. Fuel is much dearer now so the difference is even more detrimental to value.The lower energy content warranted a larger discount than that. The lower energy content reveals itself in more litres per 100 km.
It would be easy for a government to increase the cost of motoring by mandating E10 and not making a large enough allowance for the lower energy content. They're sneaky like that!:eek:

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I never heard of Ethanol Defense, and wonder what it is, or what's in it?

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Every day for years.

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https://www.bellperformance.com/fuel...thanol-defense

I searched for an MSDS, but couldn't find one.

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MSDS for Ethanol Defense

Magnesium Sulfonates 55-80%.
No.2 Fuel Oil 20-45%.

Magnesium Sulfonates are used as detergent and rust inhibitor additives in motor oil. Both Calcium Sulfonates and or Magnesium Sulfonates are presently used in detergent motor oils.

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The irony of this alcohol in the gas problem (IMHO major concession to corn growers and VERY bad for the environment in many ways) is that the standard treatment for cure if you get water in you gas you use DryGas, which is alcohol.

It combines with the water and burns off. But, you wouldn't put DryGas in your tank and let it sit, would you? Of course not.

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If you Honor pleases...

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I ain’t no chemist but sounds like 30% off road diesel in the gas would do the same.

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I'm quite sure that off road Diesel is the same as Diesel for hiway use. I believe that ultra low sulpher fuel is the only type allowed to be refined.

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Off road diesel is the same.It is just dyed to let you know the road tax has not been paid on it.I don't think I would want to be putting 3 gallons of diesel and 7 gallons of gas,(30%), in an A.It will run,but you won't like it.

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I don't think the Ethanol Defense post directly above, means about 30% diesel in a tank of ethanol gas. If you look at the bottle of Ethanol Defense, it appears to be about 16 to 32 ounces of which is 20% to 45% is diesel per a post above, which is a very small percentage of diesel when added to a gas tank.
Rusty Nelson

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Interesting to me how many additives contain petroleum distillates that we can buy for a fraction of the cost of "special" miracles in a can. A small amount of diesel added to gasoline seems to inhibit vapor lock as well, and is said to provide some defense against exhaust valve recession. Gasoline containing ethanol runs on the lean side, it runs "OK", the real problem though is it does not store well, and also tends to dissolve accumulated sludge and sediment, is hard on conventional rubber components and aluminum castings.

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At their web site they compare it to sta-bil, sea foam and others. No mention of Marvil oil. At 1 oz. per 10 gallons it should be ok to try shouldn't it?