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leon bee 07-09-2017 08:11 PM

Piston Expanders?
 

Man, I never heard of this in my life. Since there's eight in a set I guess you installed them and ran with them? I'll see if I can link to ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Piston-Expan...53.m1438.l2649

JSeery 07-09-2017 09:02 PM

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Very interesting, never heard of such a product.

leon bee 07-09-2017 09:12 PM

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So far, looks like Google never heard of em either.

40 Deluxe 07-09-2017 09:13 PM

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Sounds like you two boys missed out on the good ol' days! These were a common item back in the day.

JSeery 07-09-2017 09:13 PM

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The instruction sheet is interesting as well! Perfect Circle no less.

drolston 07-09-2017 09:27 PM

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Ranks up there with Motor Honey, Spark-O-Matic and Water Injectors.

JSeery 07-09-2017 09:28 PM

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Lean new stuff every day!!! https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=p.../US2341959.pdf

51 MERC-CT 07-09-2017 11:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JSeery (Post 1497040)

Yep, just one of the tools that were available to install 'knurled' surfaces on the skirts of pistons to decrease the cylinder wall clearance.
Witnessed and participated in a number of engine 'overhauls' using this method.

Curt in AZ 07-09-2017 11:55 PM

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Why does the description say "reproduction?"

flatheadmurre 07-10-2017 01:02 AM

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Lotīs of ways to "fix" things if labor was cheap.
Grinding pistons to undersize and reusing.
Piston ring regroover and steel shims.

51 MERC-CT 07-10-2017 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Curt in AZ (Post 1497082)
Why does the description say "reproduction?"

Isn't that a question for the seller of the product? :confused:

pooch 07-10-2017 03:22 AM

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I had pistons expanded by shot blasting back in the 70/s.

Was a normal everyday job then.

flatheadmurre 07-10-2017 04:13 AM

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You canīt get material worn away back again so what you get after knurling is a piston with less lifespan then a new one.
Back when labour was cheap and lack of parts was an issue i can get "fixing" stuff.

51 MERC-CT 07-10-2017 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by flatheadmurre (Post 1497093)
You canīt get material worn away back again so what you get after knurling is a piston with less lifespan then a new one.
Back when labour was cheap and lack of parts was an issue i can get "fixing" stuff.

Sure, when an engine is rebuilt new pistons are used but when it is overhauled, knurling the piston extends it's lifespan, at a lesser cost. Call it the cheapest way but that's what people wanted, and it worked.

Pete F 07-10-2017 07:52 AM

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Perfect Circle had a knurling attachment for the lathe to knurl the skirts that would work for a while but today the hot setup is have the skirts coated by Swain Tech .
They can build up the skirts a couple of thousands.


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flatford8 07-10-2017 08:07 AM

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I had a '70 Triumph 500 in the early 80's that had knurled pistons. I took it apart for other reasons, but it ran fine. First time I had seen them.....Mark

Bored&Stroked 07-10-2017 08:52 AM

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There were lots of ways to do the cheapest possible service on an engine - to get it back on the road and in the process, spending the least amount of dollars. Dang near every small town had somebody who "rebuilt engines" . . . everything from lawn mowers, to tractors, to cars. People didn't have money to spend and there was a lot of cheap labor available (young 'blue collar' folks) - without XBoxes, Computer Games and Texting to distract that 'cheap labor'. LOL

STEVE O 07-10-2017 10:15 AM

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I had a set of original Mopar piston expanders just like these for my 50 Plymouth but I didn't use them when I had the engine apart because the pistons still checked out very close to factory specs.

woodiewagon46 07-10-2017 10:36 AM

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I have heard of knurling a piston to decrease the slop but these things I have never seen. So if I read it correctly, they actually expanded the piston, did these thing really work?

leon bee 07-10-2017 11:09 AM

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I also knew about knurling, and have seen the little tooling parts for it. Then it looks like there was a setup for expanding pistons before you put them in. But these deals are a whole new idea for me.


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