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northeastcarnut 03-01-2017 07:26 PM

Is there a good chemical to quiet lifter in my '51 Lincoln flathead
 

I'm still trying to solve my problem with a noisy lifter in my '51 Lincoln flathead. Is there a good reliable chemical I can add? The noise appears only after the engine runs and warms. When cold, it's quiet and runs great. I have run lots of Mystery Oil in the crankcase, but no help. I'm now running fresh 40W non detergent oil. :(

30-9 03-01-2017 07:40 PM

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alanwoodieman 03-01-2017 08:00 PM

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might need to adjust one valve. put a vacuum gauge on the engine and see if there is any variation between cold and hot readings. I had an adjustable lifter that would self adjust, fixed that one and now I have another one that does it when it is hot

Pilot31135 03-01-2017 08:00 PM

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Tinker 03-01-2017 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by alanwoodieman (Post 1436638)
might need to adjust one valve. put a vacuum gauge on the engine and see if there is any variation between cold and hot readings. I had an adjustable lifter that would self adjust, fixed that one and now I have another one that does it when it is hot

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cmbrucew 03-01-2017 09:48 PM

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I wish the barn had the "Like" feature like the Hamb.

You can, scroll back to the OP #1 on the red bar select Rate this thread.
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Tinker 03-01-2017 10:20 PM

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You can, scroll back to the OP #1 on the red bar select Rate this thread.
Cast your vote.
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I get that Bruce and thank you, I was thinking more about agreeing with an answer. Might eliminate a lot of double posts. Not that I'm saying anything is wrong with it now.

WestCoast 03-01-2017 10:44 PM

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your first mistake is running non detergent oil in an engine with hydraulic lifters, detergent oil removes gunk and sludge built up in an engine. try running 4 or 5 oz of mmo in our gas. it could be the valve sticking in the guide

tubman 03-01-2017 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WestCoast (Post 1436730)
your first mistake is running non detergent oil in an engine with hydraulic lifters, detergent oil removes gunk and sludge built up in an engine. try running 4 or 5 oz of mmo in our gas. it could be the valve sticking in the guide

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GB SISSON 03-01-2017 11:50 PM

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Putting a chemical in to quiet a noisy lifter seems more like what would be done to quiet a hydraulic lifter that was collapsed or sticking. In my somewhat limited experience with these flatheads a noisy one most would most likely need to be adjusted to quiet it down.

Brian 03-02-2017 12:43 AM

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The Lincoln is indeed running hydraulic lifters, hence the op's question.

petehoovie 03-02-2017 01:46 AM

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40 Deluxe 03-02-2017 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by northeastcarnut (Post 1436624)
I'm still trying to solve my problem with a noisy lifter in my '51 Lincoln flathead. Is there a good reliable chemical I can add? The noise appears only after the engine runs and warms. When cold, it's quiet and runs great. I have run lots of Mystery Oil in the crankcase, but no help. I'm now running fresh 40W non detergent oil. :(

!st step is to get that non-detergent oil out of there! That stuff is only good for oiling bicycle chains. Hydraulic lifters caused a lot of trouble before high detergent oil became available. "Collapsed" lifters were common. Sludge and varnish deposits caused the little check balls to hang up or not seat properly, or gummed up the internal plungers. Rislone was one product offered back then that seemed to work.

51 MERC-CT 03-02-2017 03:16 AM

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Yes, indeed RISLONE is what worked for me when a noisy hydraulic lifter problem needed attention.

flatford8 03-02-2017 04:11 AM

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Does a '51 flathead have hydraulic lifters?........ Mark

51 MERC-CT 03-02-2017 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by flatford8 (Post 1436787)
Does a '51 flathead have hydraulic lifters?........ Mark

Yes. '51 Lincoln flathead has hydraulic lifters.

flatford8 03-02-2017 05:49 AM

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Ok. Thanks

KGS 03-02-2017 08:36 AM

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Do a fresh oil change with detergent oil minus 1 quart. Add a full quart of Marvel Mystery Oil to replace the one omitted in the oil change. Run the car for 100 to 200 miles and do another oil change. This should cure the noisy lifter. If not, run the car another hundred miles or so and repeat the MMO procedure. Ken

rotorwrench 03-02-2017 09:59 AM

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Hydraulic tappets generally have a little ball bearing in them that acts as a one way valve. If the seat or ball has deteriorated to the point that it allows excessive leak down, the tappet assembly should be replaced. Crud can get in there and cause leakage too but sometimes you have to remove the lifter and clean the crud out manually. A leak down test can be performed before considering whether to put it back in there. Sometimes a unit just has bad clearances in the little piston or its bore. This can also cause excessive leak down. If that's the case, the unit would have to be replaced.

blucar 03-02-2017 10:41 AM

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It is hard to believe that anyone would run a non-detergent oil in any engine in this day and age.
I have ran nothing but detergent oil, either Union Oil Royal Triton or Castorl GTX 20/50 in my 59AB engine since 1954. The only reason I switched from Royal Triton was because Union Oil quit making it.
I use the oil recommended by the vehicle manufacture in my newer, modern vehicles.


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