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Colonel Biggs 09-27-2015 06:14 PM

Rebuilding Vacuum Windshield Wipers
 

I have two Trico wiper motors that I am rebuilding, and both once worked a few years ago. (These are not the early motors, which used two screws to fasten the cover of the reversing lever assembly to the body.) I have used 400-grit paper on the air chambers, and I have blown out the air passages.

I have oiled the paddles and used Vaseline in the air chambers. There does not appear to be excessive resistance when I move the paddles back and forth manually. When I apply engine vacuum to the motors, I do not detect any hissing (leaks), but I don't get any movement of the paddles. Is there a way in which one can isolate whether the paddles are at fault? (Bratton's tells me that they no longer have a supplier for the paddle rebuild kits.)

Gordon

Mitch//pa 09-27-2015 07:39 PM

Re: Rebuilding Vacuum Windshield Wipers
 

Colonel
give fickens a call,,, its worth a shot
http://www.wiperman.com

Colonel Biggs 09-27-2015 08:10 PM

Rebuilding Vacuum Windshield Wipers
 

Thanks for the lead, Mitch. I am going to try my best at rebuilding them myself, but if that fails, I at least have place to which to turn.

I like the web site, and I have been told that about 95% of all wiper motor problems are due to faulty paddles.

Col. Biggs

Mitch//pa 09-27-2015 08:14 PM

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your welcome Col.
maybe he can help you out with some rebuild parts

KGBnut 09-27-2015 08:32 PM

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I agree with Mitch, if you can't get it going yourself, Ficken is the place to go. Great work, and I got a pretty fast turn around time.

Ken

BRENT in 10-uh-C 09-27-2015 09:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa (Post 1163647)
your welcome Col.
maybe he can help you out with some rebuild parts

The last I heard, they did/would not sell parts only.

Colonel Biggs 09-27-2015 09:39 PM

Re: Rebuilding Vacuum Windshield Wipers
 

Hello, Brent!

Their site says that they do not sell parts. I might have to ask that if I wish to keep my parts for spares (except for the paddles), whether they would accept that.

My best to your dad, whom I have not seen in some time now.

Le Colonel

Tom Wesenberg 09-27-2015 11:18 PM

Re: Rebuilding Vacuum Windshield Wipers
 

I haven't worked on a vacuum wiper in many years, but doesn't they have a piece of leather riveted between two metal plates?
If the leather is worn out, you should be able to grind out the rivets and cut a new piece of leather, and rivet it in.

Mike V. Florida 09-27-2015 11:36 PM

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1 Attachment(s)
Wiper exploded view;

tbirdtbird 09-27-2015 11:45 PM

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Mike's diagram says to use sewing machine oil

i use vacuum pump oil

Tom Wesenberg 09-27-2015 11:56 PM

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I agree that a liquid oil would be much better than Vaseline. I think I used ATF many years ago on my 1950 Studebaker wiper.
DO NOT use WD-40, as it can do damage to pot metal parts.

andyfresno 09-28-2015 01:42 AM

Re: Rebuilding Vacuum Windshield Wipers
 

You should be able to manually rotate the shaft and feel the air flow out of the port. If you don't feel a pretty good air flow when you rotate the shaft, you've probably got a bad wiper.

Mike V. Florida 09-28-2015 02:28 AM

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Here is some more info;

Lubricating wiper

RJ 09-28-2015 07:21 AM

Re: Rebuilding Vacuum Windshield Wipers
 

Hi, I had a similar experience rebuilding my wipers. Called Flicken and they were very helpful. Person I spoke with told me to look for wipers with a serial number after 1936 I think . It might be later , the later the better. I was told the early one,s the casting actual warps and they cant be rebuilt.

Bob Bidonde 09-28-2015 09:28 AM

Re: Rebuilding Vacuum Windshield Wipers
 

Having rebuilt several Trico motors, I can tell you that the paddle should be a very snug fit inside the motor's lower body.

Also wipe a thin film of grease on the sliding parts of the ON-OFF valve.

Lithium grease or a synthetic grease works well. Liquids or greases that revert to liquids are poor choices because the liquid will be sucked into the engine in a short time.

Be especially careful when placing new gaskets between the upper & lower bodies. These gaskets are fragile and must not leak.

Another problem that often arises is the wiper stops at one end of its stroke. There is a round seal on the paddle and this must seal tightly against the upper motor body to cause a reverse movement of the wiper.

Colonel Biggs 09-28-2015 12:51 PM

Rebuilding Vacuum Windshield Wipers
 

Many good thoughts, for which I thank you all. I especially like the lubrication info (brake fluid would not be my choice!), and the parts diagram.

Is it possible to learn anything, if I were to attach a hand-operated vacuum pump to the inlet nozzle? Should it hold the vacuum, and then release it when the paddle is turned in a particular direction? In other words, can the pump duplicate engine vacuum for testing purposes?

The top of the paddle (installed) fits into the small recess in the upper plate. Is it possible that I don't have a good seal there? Maybe I could place some powder in the recess cavity to see if contact is being made.

Again, my thanks for your inputs.


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