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Bob from Northport 12-02-2013 12:23 AM

Wheel/drum stud swedge remover
 

Can anyone advise a tool that is used to remove studs from brake drums and the center housings.?? I remember a thread about tools that can be made or purchased, but can not find it.

Thanks!!

Bob

pat in Santa Cruz 12-02-2013 12:35 AM

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Vince has a section on installing new studs on Fordgarage, and near the bottom he shows how to remove one using a special swage cutter

http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/swaging.htm

BILL WILLIAMSON 12-02-2013 12:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob from Northport (Post 776181)
Can anyone advise a tool that is used to remove studs from brake drums and the center housings.?? I remember a thread about tools that can be made or purchased, but can not find it.

Thanks!!

Bob

Bob, A hole saw of the right diameter might work, by taking the center bit out?? Bill W.

Jim Parker Toronto 12-02-2013 12:56 AM

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A hole saw will work, if you get the 9/16" size, it will go over the 1/2" stud and guide you down to the swedging perfectly. Be sure to use some cutting oil. A large drill press is handy, but can be done with a hand drill using a slow speed

Mitch//pa 12-02-2013 06:46 AM

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I used a hand drill with a hole saw as dad mentioned:o
when i replace drums

BRENT in 10-uh-C 12-02-2013 06:54 AM

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Bob, my experience is the hole saw trick only works well if you are doing it as a one-time deal. Since you are running a Model-A Garage, you really need to invest in the proper tool where you can do it fast and safely. Snyder's sells it here: http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/5459 or you can get it where I get my engine rebuilding supplies http://www.goodson.com/Brake-Drum-Swedge-Cutting-Tool/

BILL WILLIAMSON 12-02-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa (Post 776237)
I used a hand drill with a hole saw as dad mentioned:o
when i replace drums

YOU'RE BACK!!!!!!!! Like sumbody said, "Use a slow drill"! Most shop idiots think you should drill @ 47,000 RPM with their air powered thingamajigs. That's ONLY for grinding or polishing, etc.
Always drill slow, with enough pressure to create a long, constant cutting & your bits will last "forever"! I was taught by a "MASTER", BUT, I never really got the "HANG" of sharpening drill bits well--+*^#%#@$+:( Bill W.

Mitch//pa 12-02-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON (Post 776300)
YOU'RE BACK!!!!!!!! Like sumbody said, "Use a slow drill"! Most shop idiots think you should drill @ 47,000 RPM with their air powered thingamajigs. That's ONLY for grinding or polishing, etc.
Always drill slow, with enough pressure to create a long, constant cutting & your bits will last "forever"! I was taught by a "MASTER", BUT, I never really got the "HANG" of sharpening drill bits well--+*^#%#@$+:( Bill W.

yea MON,
cant find any model A's in jamaica if there were any they probably turned them into jerk chicken smokers....
IRIE:o

Barry B./ Ma. 12-02-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Parker Toronto (Post 776190)
A hole saw will work, if you get the 9/16" size, it will go over the 1/2" stud and guide you down to the swedging perfectly. Be sure to use some cutting oil. A large drill press is handy, but can be done with a hand drill using a slow speed

I use a 9/16 hole saw like Jim. Just be careful you don't go too deep then just whack the old stud and it pops out. I bring the hub and drum to the auto machine shop and they swage in new ones. Don't bother getting the so called swaging tool as it's not hardened steel and will mush out under the 30 ton press, let them use their own.

Tom Endy 12-02-2013 12:37 PM

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This flyer is dated, but still may be valid.

Tom Endy

Tom Wesenberg 12-02-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Endy (Post 776388)
This flyer is dated, but still may be valid.

Tom Endy

Just looked at their site, and that tool is now $90 plus shipping.

The tool shown from Snyder's looks like a better tool, and that's the one I'd buy.:)

larrys40 12-02-2013 05:41 PM

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My preference and procedure is to use the correct tool. I have used the same tool many times on both "A" and V8 Drums... It works like a charm. I take them down with the swedge cutter tool to the point a little tap with a brass hammer knocks out. I can't imagine trying to do it with a hole saw.. and being very successful...

That's the easy part. facing the hub, prepping everything and swedging them in is the more tedious process. As a KRW junkie I have one of the Hub bolt swedge tools... ( I think I bought it years ago from Herm Konke) and I can't imagine really doing it with them..... but at this point it's part of the collection whether they work well or not.

Get the correct hub bolt cutter!!! Also... if you do any kind of work at all... as Brent eluded.. Goodson has lots of good stuff... from cutting oils... to tool bits, machine items.. etc. A good resource...
Larry Shepard

Bob from Northport 12-02-2013 11:57 PM

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You guys are all great! Thank You!!

Mikeinnj 12-03-2013 09:49 AM

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I have used a Sears Craftsman hole saw and a 3/8 inch electric drill at slow speed with a lot of oil. The same hole saw has done a dozen drums with each drum taking about fifteen minutes. The studs often just fall out on their own when the shoulder is cut away with no damage to the drum. I'm sure the expensive cutter works faster, but for occasional use, the hole saw is the way to go.

Marco Tahtaras 12-03-2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 776413)
Just looked at their site, and that tool is now $90 plus shipping.

The tool shown from Snyder's looks like a better tool, and that's the one I'd buy.:)

I don't know why the Goodson catalog pic looks as it does. This is the pic of the ST-500 from Goodson:

http://www.goodson.com/images/P/ST-437-500-562.jpg

Now, this is the pic from Snyders:

http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/up...82-9824-xl.jpg

Read the markings.





Tom Wesenberg 12-03-2013 01:26 PM

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Thanks Marco. That was exactly my point. (the carbide cutters)

Marco Tahtaras 12-03-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 777076)
Thanks Marco. That was exactly my point. (the carbide cutters)

In case it wasn't clear, they HAVE the carbide tips in real life. The Goodson catalog photo is not the same as what you get. the Snyders photo is the REAL Goodson product.

Bob from Northport 12-03-2013 11:43 PM

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Thanks Marco,
I ordered one.....

Bob

BRENT in 10-uh-C 12-04-2013 06:36 AM

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Maybe I should have jumped in earlier to confirm what Marco is saying. I purchased my first cutter from Snyders, and since I purchase some of my engine rebuilding supplies from Goodson, I purchased my second cutter from Goodson, ...and they are the same product. The benefit from Snyders is if you are purchasing more than one Model-A item and also purchase the cutter, the freight is spread over the entire order making it cheaper to purchase that cutter from Snyders. The same applied for me purchasing from Goodson.

Bob C 12-04-2013 12:18 PM

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If you look at the cutter on Vince's site it has been modified so it only
cuts the swedge on the stud and not the drum.

Bob


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