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59mgaguy 03-19-2013 12:00 PM

28 early AR oil pan
 

Just wondering what the going price is for a 28 AR oil pan???

Tim Ayers 03-19-2013 12:01 PM

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I'd like to know as well. Should they be more than a "normal" '28-'29?

Fred 03-19-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 59mgaguy (Post 614053)
Just wondering what the going price is for a 28 AR oil pan???

Which one ?? There are several different styles that were made..

wrndln 03-19-2013 01:25 PM

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The oil pan with the cleanout on the bottom are not near as common as the later style, making them more expensive. It seems like a nice one goes anywhere form $30 to $50 from what I have seen (with dipper tray included).
Rusty Nelson

59mgaguy 03-19-2013 03:23 PM

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Mine has the clean out on the bottom. I picked it up with an engine I was rebuilding back in 1973. I put a later model pan on that engine and kept the 28. Every once in a while I move it out of my way and wonder???? Thanks guy

John

Tim Ayers 03-19-2013 03:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wrndln (Post 614106)
The oil pan with the cleanout on the bottom are not near as common as the later style, making them more expensive. It seems like a nice one goes anywhere form $30 to $50 from what I have seen (with dipper tray included).
Rusty Nelson


That is the one I have as well.

59mgaguy 03-19-2013 03:38 PM

Re: 28 early AR oil pan
 

To be correct. It's a 28 AR not 28-29. Hope I didn't offend?

msmaron 03-19-2013 04:21 PM

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To be MORE Correct it is a E-28 NOT AR

Fred 03-19-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by msmaron (Post 614186)
To be MORE Correct it is a E-28 NOT AR

It also "COULD" be VERY EARLY 28 or late 28..

Purdy Swoft 03-19-2013 05:21 PM

Re: 28 early AR oil pan
 

I've got at least a couple of them on the shelf that I've held on to. I don't have an assembled 28 model A. I figure it was more expensive to produce and thats probably why they were discontinued. I figure that a nice one should bring over fifty dollars. A removable cleanout and the ability to remove the oil pump without removing the oil pan is a really good option.

mmindling 03-19-2013 05:38 PM

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Hi 59 MGA,

My car is *A 11739*, so January 20, 1928 engine build date.

The oil pan, which I believe to be original, has the removable plate at the bottom end with a brass oil drain plug. This pan has no ridges on the sides to hold the internal splash pan. It is completely smooth. Although now painted black, there are indications that it was original cad plated.

Hope this helps. I can send a pic if you want.

Regards,

Martin Mindling Watertown, Ohio

John LaVoy 03-19-2013 08:50 PM

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I always keep an eye out for the ones with the clean out. I even run one on the 1930 roadster so we can pull the oil pump to inspect it. The early ones did not have a snap in dipper tray, there was a screw in one. I have one on the phaeton but it might be too early for that car.

Arlen 03-20-2013 01:02 AM

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Www.mantiques.com had one listed for sale. Don't remember the price. They also had the brass drain plug for sale.

James Rogers 03-20-2013 06:13 AM

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I have one that has the removable inspection plate like described but has a dipper tray different from any other I have seen. The tray snaps in but the troughs only have a provision for the dippers without the depressed area in front of the trough. I can post a picture later today. I haven't looked at the drain plug but it should be the same as the Model T used.

Fred 03-20-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by James Rogers (Post 614519)
I have one that has the removable inspection plate like described but has a dipper tray different from any other I have seen. The tray snaps in but the troughs only have a provision for the dippers without the depressed area in front of the trough. I can post a picture later today. I haven't looked at the drain plug but it should be the same as the Model T used.

That is the 2nd style tray, it being like the 1st, but with out the screw holes in it..

Clem Clement 03-20-2013 09:01 AM

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I have the one with the 4 round head mounting screws. The outside has a very thin cad coating. If you look at the early engine drawings, you will see that the dip tray baffolds extend to contact the pan bottom. Mine has this and the dips are narrow for the X rods. The inside bottom of the pan shows marks where the bafolds scrape the bottom. I bet that was noisy!!

Ron in Quincy 03-20-2013 10:25 AM

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The earliest pan drip tray was held in with 4 screws and lock washers, therefor, smooth sides and no rienforcing strap for the pan bolts; the second style was the same except the rienforcing strap was added to the pan bolt area. Both these styles had the Large brass drain plug and the removaable plate for the oil pump. The third style had a snap in dip tray but still had the removable plate on the bottom fro the oil pump.

Hope I have not confused you with my explination.

Ron

Fred 03-20-2013 02:43 PM

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Ok, lets get it RIGHT !! 1927 no ribs, screw in drip tray, Cad plated until Dec.. Feb, 1928 Ribs added & a snap in tray with early style dipper trough..June 1928 Reinforcement strips added along pan mounting flange..1929 Clean out plate deleted


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