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DWester 12-21-2014 09:10 AM

Castle nuts and correct torque
 

An old question I'm sure, but I'll run it by once again. After getting the correct torque on the mains, I noticed that some holes for the wire don't line up. I did a search here and found this from a few years back. Would I be good to go with Kurt's post?

This is a 1948 '59' block.

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...tle+nuts+crank

Henry/Kokomo 12-21-2014 09:18 AM

Re: Castle nuts and correct torque
 

Kurt's post seems right to me. Personally, I use the Chevy rod nuts and did not wire them. No problem thus far.

Ol' Ron 12-21-2014 09:38 AM

Re: Castle nuts and correct torque
 

You can buy grade 8 nuts from your local auto supply, been doing this for years.

DWester 12-21-2014 09:45 AM

Re: Castle nuts and correct torque
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol' Ron (Post 1001744)
You can buy grade 8 nuts from your local auto supply, been doing this for years.

Would you do the same for the rods Ron? When I took this motor apart, it had keeper/retainer nuts behind the rod nuts.

rotorwrench 12-21-2014 09:59 AM

Re: Castle nuts and correct torque
 

In the aviation world, we use a multitude of hardware that is either safety wired or cotter pinned. the common practice is to use a thin washer under the nut if it won't make torque up with an acceptable alignment. The next option is to go on to the next castellation but sometimes it stretches the threads & fastener too much. FoMoCo used pal nuts on the con rod caps in the early 8BA era but finally realized that if properly torqued, a pal nut was not necessary. Aerospace still has a practice of double safety on all control system hardware but there are several ways to do it. Some, like Robinson Helicopters, still use pal nuts. Others use castellated elastic stop nuts and cotter pins.

Ronnie 12-21-2014 11:07 AM

Re: Castle nuts and correct torque
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWester (Post 1001750)
Would you do the same for the rods Ron? When I took this motor apart, it had keeper/retainer nuts behind the rod nuts.


Just use Chevy 350 rod nuts they will work just fine.Install them and torque and they will never come loose. There are 100,000,000,000 + of them running down the freeway all day long.:)

R

40 Deluxe 12-21-2014 11:52 AM

Re: Castle nuts and correct torque
 

Just threading some wire through the holes is not really "safety wiring" it! If you look at some wiring jobs, you can visualize the bolt/nut backing off a quarter turn or more before the wire does any good. Oops, too late! There is an art to a proper safety wiring job. The wire has to be routed so that when it is twisted tight, it is in effect pulling the bolt/nut tighter.

deuce_roadster 12-21-2014 02:41 PM

Re: Castle nuts and correct torque
 

I worry less about the nut and more about the forged "bolt" part of the rod.

supereal 12-21-2014 03:16 PM

Re: Castle nuts and correct torque
 

The correct torque for mains is 75-80 ft lbs. For rods with castellated nuts, 35-40, with self locking, 40-45.

DWester 12-21-2014 03:53 PM

Re: Castle nuts and correct torque
 

That's right. Studs with nuts are 80 and bolts are 100.


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