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Flysafe 01-06-2015 07:59 AM

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Hello all,


Some progress in the drawing, left side block, the lines of the back is not done yet. Now they are aligned.

All the best,
Jorge

Flysafe 01-24-2015 03:41 PM

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I need some help, which side have the bigger angle in the valves?

JSeery 01-24-2015 04:25 PM

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Are you looking for the angles? 52.09 on the left and 49.36 on the right.

Flysafe 01-26-2015 08:02 AM

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Thank you :).

Flysafe 02-01-2015 10:31 AM

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Hello all,

Now with a few more things, the funny part will begin, extrude all the lines.
The valves sets is done with the correct angle. I will need to resize some parts not serious.


http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps07f94420.jpg

Flysafe 02-04-2015 07:57 AM

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Does anyone has a piston for a bore 3.1875 that can take a measurement?
-Height,
-From the bottom to the middle of the piston pin,
-The pin diameter.

Thank you so much.

JSeery 02-04-2015 11:33 AM

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See if any of this helps. This piston is from a 1948 59a engine, it is domed top, 3.188 +.040 (original 3.188 bored std .040 over).

From top edge of piston to bottom of longest part of skirt: 2.960
From top edge of piston to bottom of shortest part of skirt: 2.700 (not including notch)
Width of longest part of skirt: ~1.250
Width of shortest part of skirt: ~1.250
It is curved between these sections.
From top edge of piston to top of dome: ~.250

Starting a top edge of piston working down to shortest part of skirt (not including notch).
Top edge to top piston ring: .250
Top piston ring grove: .096
Top piston ring to second piston ring: .156
Second piston ring grove: .096
Second piston ring to third piston ring: .100
Third piston ring grove: .188
Third piston ring to top of piston pin: .268
Piston pin: .750
Bottom of piston pin to bottom piston ring: .170
Bottom piston ring grove: .183
Bottom piston ring to bottom of skirt: .440 (not including notch)

From Top edge of piston to center of piston pin: ~1.530
From center of piston pin to bottom of skirt: ~1.170
Piston Pin diameter: .750

These are measurements straight from a piston using calipers and include measuring errors I am sure!

JSeery 02-04-2015 11:35 AM

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For some reason the photos didn't load the first time.

Flysafe 02-05-2015 06:44 AM

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Thank you so much JSeery.

Flysafe 02-05-2015 10:22 AM

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Earlier I do this type of piston, can be used in this engine model?

JSeery 02-05-2015 11:03 AM

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There are 3 ring and 4 ring pistons. I believe the original design from Ford was the 4 ring and the 3 ring was a more modern replacement. Not sure it would make any difference for what you are doing, a lot of the current rebuilds use the 3 ring style.

Flysafe 02-06-2015 07:06 AM

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Thanks.

Flysafe 02-08-2015 09:30 AM

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Hello all,

Some of the lines after extruder.

Flysafe 03-25-2015 04:53 PM

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Some progress in the design.

Flysafe 03-30-2015 11:42 AM

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Hello all,

Exhaust channels done, and e few holes. Start the front end of the block.

Flysafe 04-06-2015 10:44 AM

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Hello all,

The 59 AB block have the yellow line that I made?
The block 8 BA have this fill.

Thank you so much.

Flysafe 04-07-2015 12:15 PM

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Hello all,

I 'm working in the front end of the block, I will need some help, someone have any photos where I can see the front end of the block 59 AB without the water pumps and the distributor cover? I already made a google search but not find anything.

Thank you so much for the help.

All the best,
Jorge

JSeery 04-07-2015 12:51 PM

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I can add some in about an hour.

Flysafe 04-08-2015 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JSeery (Post 1065025)
I can add some in about an hour.


Thank you so much JSeery

JSeery 04-08-2015 11:44 AM

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I'm easily distracted! But here are 4 shots of 59a block. This is a 48 block (as far as I know) out of a Truck.

Flysafe 04-09-2015 06:22 AM

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Thank you so much for the photos JSeery, have the same lines and holes, that I have been drawing.

If is possible yet, can you take a close-up of the areas that I marked?

Thank you very much.

All the best,
Jorge

JSeery 04-09-2015 07:44 AM

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See if this is what you are looking for. PM me your email address and I will email back the original higher res photos (around 4Mb)

Flysafe 04-09-2015 11:03 AM

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Thank you JSeery.

Flysafe 04-13-2015 11:43 AM

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In progress :)

Flysafe 04-14-2015 02:13 PM

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Hello all,

This part gave some work, now do the rest of the holes.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps6bj42cfe.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...psjy2jkicw.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps2pqfb352.jpg

Ronnie 04-14-2015 06:43 PM

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You are showing 8ba timing components they are different from 59a.

R

Flysafe 04-14-2015 06:53 PM

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What are the components that are not correct?

Ronnie 04-14-2015 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Flysafe (Post 1069094)
What are the components that are not correct?


The timing gears

R

JSeery 04-14-2015 10:31 PM

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59a and 8ba cams rotate in opposite directions, so the teeth on the gears would be in the opposite direction. The crank gear and the cam gear are matched sets.

Russ/40 04-14-2015 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JSeery (Post 1069235)
59a and 8ba cams rotate in opposite directions, so the teeth on the gears would be in the opposite direction. The crank gear and the cam gear are matched sets.

Simply not true! 59A and 8BA cams turn the same direction. Only the cut of the gears differ.

Flysafe 04-15-2015 05:44 AM

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So it is only the diretion of the teeth gears correct, I need flip over the both gears teeth?

Thank you so much by the notice.

JOrge

Ronnie 04-15-2015 08:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JSeery (Post 1069235)
59a and 8ba cams rotate in opposite directions, so the teeth on the gears would be in the opposite direction. The crank gear and the cam gear are matched sets.

Nope time to go back to flathead school. "LOL" :D

R

Ronnie 04-15-2015 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Flysafe (Post 1069306)
So it is only the diretion of the teeth gears correct, I need flip over the both gears teeth?

Thank you so much by the notice.

JOrge

Info for you
http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/F...timinggear.jpg

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/F...ngear-alum.jpg

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/F...m_1940to48.JPG

http://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_me...passenger.html

http://www.honestcharley.com/hot-rod...-alum-59a.html

R

Flysafe 04-15-2015 10:53 AM

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Thank you so much Ronnie by the notice and the photos too.
As I don't know of any existing engine near me not always it is clear, my support it is photos that I found in my searches or some help from the members of the forum.

Now i believe that is correct, the left that i have, the right it is the new one.
The engine that I have been designed it is the 59AB.

Thank you all for the help :)

All the best,
Jorge

JSeery 04-15-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ/40 (Post 1069239)
Simply not true! 59A and 8BA cams turn the same direction. Only the cut of the gears differ.

Sorry about that, not totally awake on that one!!!!! The thrust of the cam is reversed, not the cam rotation. The 59a thrust the cam toward the engine and the 8ba thrust the cam toward to cover because of the cut of the gears. Some days are better than other!

JSeery 04-15-2015 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie (Post 1069392)
Nope time to go back to flathead school. "LOL" :D

R

Yep, asleep at the wheel on that one!!

Yackobeen 11-15-2019 05:17 PM

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Great work that model is really neat! Would you share a .step file of the 59AB intake manifold?
I would love to 3D print one for my desk!
Jesse

Ronnieroadster 11-15-2019 07:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yackobeen (Post 1821562)
Great work that model is really neat! Would you share a .step file of the 59AB intake manifold?
I would love to 3D print one for my desk!
Jesse



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