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KULTULZ 05-31-2018 02:24 AM
Re: The forgotten 1960 Fords
 

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Originally Posted by willowbilly3 (Post 1479307)

I do somewhat understand Ford's numbering system. "Numbers matching" was once a term only used by the GM people, where it means something completely different.

On GM you could tell if major components were the one's a car left the factory with. On a Ford you can only tell if the part number and date code are consistent with ones built within a time frame the car would have been manufactured in. So a diligent restorer of a Ford can install a different part and still have it be consistent with the numbering system. On a GM, that's not possible. So even though the term has crept out of the GM camp and over to ours, it isn't the same thing. To the best of my understanding.
:confused:

OK... Some BOW-TIE NUT is going to have to explain to me their version of numbers matching.

All manufacturers had to stamp VEHICLE VIN NOS (partial) on 68 up cars (engine-trans) as a means to thwart chop shops and that would give true meaning of NUMBERS CORRECT as I see it.

GM could not have stamped the VIN on every assembly part, other than an ID casting no. system similar to FOMOCO.

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KULTULZ 05-31-2018 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumpy Rick (Post 1478752)

A friend has a couple '60 Starliners, and he tells me they are the largest model Ford ever built.

Never checked that out.
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The entire body of the new model was only slightly more than 36 inches high at the beltline, with an overall height of just 54.5 inches for the sleek new Galaxie Special Starliner models, and up to just 56.5 inches for the station wagons.

They were more than five inches wider than the 1959 models, with the brochures proudly announcing the tread width was now more than five feet!

The new Fords were actually wider than the legal limit in some states, although we know of no one receiving a citation for driving an “oversize
load.”
SOURCE- http://www.mre-books.com/sa25/sa25_4.html

Same issue as dualing headlamps in 1958.

The 60 STAR (and 352/360HP engine) was designed for NASCAR competition. FORD finally decided to no longer comply with the 1958 AMA ban on racing beginning with the 1960 model year. The 61 STAR returned to more earlier trim designs while basically the same car.

mercman from oz 05-31-2018 06:17 PM
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Regarding the Ford Starliners, did you realise that the Windscreens are totally different to every other Ford model of 1960? Usually, the Two Door Hardtops and Convertibles share the same Windscreen, but in case of the 1960 and 1961 Ford Starliners, that is not the case. The only other model that shares the same Windscreen is the 1960 Edsel Two Door Hardtop. I should mention that the equivalent model of the Canadian Meteor would also share this same unique windscreen. These are truly unique vehicles.

mercman from oz 06-29-2018 10:01 PM
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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...7" height="252
Ever wonder where all the 1960 Ford Starliners went? Unfortunately, here is a picture of a pair that never made it. The Ford Super Duty Transporter doesn't look too healthy either?

scicala 06-29-2018 10:33 PM
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Sad picture.


Sal

KULTULZ 06-30-2018 02:19 AM
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This photo is from a TRUCK DRIVER INSTRUCTION MANUAL PG 27, the subject discussing low overhead clearances and road signs that warn of this .. :eek:


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streetdreams 06-30-2018 07:25 AM
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I need the washboards and rear bumper off the blue one. What yard they at?

Herman Munster 06-30-2018 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by streetdreams (Post 1645763)
I need the washboards and rear bumper off the blue one. What yard they at?
You'd have to take the Way Back Machine to get those parts. That photo is very likely from 1960. The truck looks like a 58.

streetdreams 06-30-2018 07:31 PM
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Yeah, I know. Was just kidding.

raceron1120 06-30-2018 09:33 PM
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Somebody from Washington posted these photos on the HAMB a few days ago:
http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/r...on1120/60b.jpg

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/r...on1120/60a.jpg

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/r...on1120/60c.jpg

Herman Munster 06-30-2018 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by raceron1120 (Post 1646076)
Yeah, I know the guy.:cool:

raceron1120 07-01-2018 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Herman Munster (Post 1646092)
Yeah, I know the guy.:cool:
Was it you that posted 'em? I didn't notice the name. Looks like all of them could be saved. My first car was a '60 Ford but not a hardtop.

big job 07-01-2018 07:22 AM
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I wondered a long time if the Flxible Co. was buying Starliner emblems from Ford for
their line of Starliner buses? they sure look identical. see if I have a pic. This is a Starliner can't see emblem but its under the first window....sam

Herman Munster 07-01-2018 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by raceron1120 (Post 1646141)
Was it you that posted 'em? I didn't notice the name. Looks like all of them could be saved. My first car was a '60 Ford but not a hardtop.
One and the same, AKA, "Bleach".:)
I don't know why I signed up as H. Munster here. I think I was probably watching repeats of the show when I signed up.

rotorwrench 07-01-2018 10:29 AM
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The 1960 Galaxie Starliner 2-door hardtop was a nice car since it was a fastback but the 1960 Mercury Park Lane 2-door hardtop is also a nice car. It had the bubble top front and rear glass and was truly one of a kind as well. They are pretty rare these days but they're still out there too.

streetdreams 07-01-2018 01:08 PM
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'60 Park Lane is awesome, especially with a 430. OK Herm, I'll ask. What's the plan for the Starliners?.

Herman Munster 07-01-2018 03:38 PM
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Well, I don't know. Those aren't my cars. If they were mine, the cars would be decent and I would be broke.

streetdreams 07-01-2018 05:16 PM
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I hear you. Just picked up a very restorable, complete '55 Merc Montclair to take up time and money I don't have. But it's a Rockdale Gray over Persimmon beauty I couldn't resist.

scicala 07-01-2018 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by streetdreams (Post 1646391)
I hear you. Just picked up a very restorable, complete '55 Merc Montclair to take up time and money I don't have. But it's a Rockdale Gray over Persimmon beauty I couldn't resist.




That's what my first car was when I was a kid. Mine had a greenish/teal roof and coves, with a white body. Be great to have one again.


Sal

mercman from oz 07-02-2018 01:19 AM
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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1530512097

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1530512097
Sweet 1960 Ford Starliner at the Annual Motor Muster at Greenfield Village Dearborn, June 16 this year.


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