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GaryU. 11-29-2020 04:48 PM

1939/1940 Horn Suppliers
 

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My son picked these up in St. Paul, Minnesota for me and brought them down on Turkey day. Seller used to have a '39 Mercury and had this extra set of horns just in case he ever needed them. There was no paint showing as they were covered in years of dirt/grease etc. so I spent the morning cleaning and adjusting them back to good working order. When I took the cups off I was very happy to see the the inner workings looked factory fresh, didn't do more than clean the contacts. I've seen Spartan-Jackson horns and was curious about other horn suppliers like these "Schwartze". Were they indeed a Ford/Mercury supplier? Thanks, (Bet Kube knows!)

Zeke3 11-30-2020 11:14 AM

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Gary, that is a nice looking set of horns. I hope you gave your son the pick of the drumsticks for those.

Kube 11-30-2020 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GaryU. (Post 1957608)
My son picked these up in St. Paul, Minnesota for me and brought them down on Turkey day. Seller used to have a '39 Mercury and had this extra set of horns just in case he ever needed them. There was no paint showing as they were covered in years of dirt/grease etc. so I spent the morning cleaning and adjusting them back to good working order. When I took the cups off I was very happy to see the the inner workings looked factory fresh, didn't do more than clean the contacts. I've seen Spartan-Jackson horns and was curious about other horn suppliers like these "Schwartze". Were they indeed a Ford/Mercury supplier? Thanks, (Bet Kube knows!)

Gary, In all my days, I've never seen a set from Schwartze.
Makes me wonder if they were a replacement.
I've not seen anything that stated they were a supplier to Ford in 1940.
I can't speak to other years and certainly can't offer anything more. Sorry :(

GaryU. 11-30-2020 02:14 PM

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Thanks for the info Mike. I was suspicious about them as they did not have fluting down the length of the trumpets like a pair I saw on Saturday that are on a 1940 4 door sedan. Was surprised to see a name inside as well, maybe replacements is what they are.

corvette8n 11-30-2020 07:24 PM

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After a little googling it looks like they were used on WWII Jeep’s, with Spartan also being a supplier.

DavidG 12-01-2020 07:30 AM

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For what it is worth, which isn't much, Schwartze was a supplier of horns to Ford in earlier model years. Judging from the relative number of surviving examples, they supplied but a small fraction of those supplied by Sparks-Withington (Sparton, not Spartan).

Kube 12-01-2020 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 1958076)
For what it is worth, which isn't much, Schwartze was a supplier of horns to Ford in earlier model years. Judging from the relative number of surviving examples, they supplied but a small fraction of those supplied by Sparks-Withington (Sparton, not Spartan).

Thanks Dave. That sheds the most proverbial light on these yet. I don't recall seeing them listed as a supplier in 40. However, my memory is not what it once was. I think...

deuce_roadster 12-01-2020 10:23 AM

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I am curious as to the length of the trumpets from the flat surface to the end of both horns. I have seen some horns that look like 40s but are slightly different. Perhaps Mercury. Also, do the bells have a screw in the center of the back or not, judging from the strap with the name on it, probably not.

GaryU. 12-01-2020 10:34 AM

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Bells do have a screw in center of cap. Will do a measurement later this afternoon after work. Also thought it was interesting that voltage was indicated, thought 6 volts was the only game in town.

40larry 12-01-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 1958076)
For what it is worth, which isn't much, Schwartze was a supplier of horns to Ford in earlier model years. Judging from the relative number of surviving examples, they supplied but a small fraction of those supplied by Sparks-Withington (Sparton, not Spartan).


Why is everyone saying "SCHWARTZE" ? THE NAME STAMPED INTO THE HORN BELL SUPPORT PIECE IN PHOTO IS "SCAWARZE" ???


40LARRY

GaryU. 12-01-2020 01:06 PM

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Your correct that there is no "T" but there is an "H" so SCHWARZE not SCHWARTZE. Using a google search they do come up as earlier horns for automobiles as well as Jeeps.

40larry 12-01-2020 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GaryU. (Post 1958215)
Your correct that there is no "T" but there is an "H" so SCHWARZE not SCHWARTZE. Using a google search they do come up as earlier horns for automobiles as well as Jeeps.




Look again. The third letter is an "A" not an 'H'.................


40Larry

40larry 12-01-2020 03:48 PM

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Oops. Sorry. Checked Google and you are correct. The third letter is actually an "H" not an "A" althouigh it sure looks like one on the photo......

GaryU. 12-01-2020 06:41 PM

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Here's a couple more pics showing length of horns from base. Some pics of mechanism and better? photo of name.Also attachment area, like a J rather than a hard attachment if that makes sense. Sorry for the initial misspelling but hey I live in Wisconsin and the German is strong here. These little horns are causing a stir LOL. Best to all here.


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